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Meeting Minutes - March 25, 2002
Chairman Gasper called the regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission to order at
7:00 P.M. on March 25, 2002.
Roll Call:
Present:
Jeffrey Wall, Bob Culley, Earl Swift, Mark Jones, Bud
Sellers, Mark Hollis, Jo Ann Gasper
Staff: Barry LeBaron, Jan Levy
Invocation:
Commissioner Culley
Pledge of Allegiance
Approval of Minutes:
March 11, 2002
Commissioner Gasper moved to approve the minutes of March 11, 2002 as written.
Commissioner Swift seconded the motion. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Cully, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
1. Final Plat of LDS Addition, requested by Goodwin & Marshall, Inc., for Church of Jesus
Christ Latter-Day Saints, 6.090 acres located in the 500 block of McDonwell School Road,
Case P-02-012
Barry LeBaron presented the case to the Commission and reviewed the staff briefing. He said the
church property was included in the Westcliff preliminary plan and the church is ready to move
forward with their plat before the final plat was ready to submit for Westcliff. He said the church
has requested relief from the parkland dedication fees and the request is in the response letter
from the project engineer to the DRC comments. Mr. LeBaron said that because this subdivision
is creating a new street, the plat would go to City Council for final approval.
Commissioner Sellers asked if the trail that was discussed during the preliminary plat approval for
Westcliff was on the plat. Mr. LeBaron responded that the City would look to the church to build
the trail and the street east of where the church property is located.
Chairman Gasper asked if there are any drainage issues on the church property. Staff responded
that they were not aware of any; however, the applicant's engineer is present and the Commission
may want to ask him.
Eddie Eckert, 6001 Bridge Street, Fort Worth, was present to represent the case. He said that his
firm has begun the construction plans for Westcliff and the final plat application will be filed with
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the City soon. He said there is a filed document in the Tarrant County records regarding the
construction of Newkirk Lane. He said that the developer rather than the church would be
responsible for the construction of Newkirk Lane. He said regarding the drainage, there is a small
amount of water that comes across the church property to McDonwell School Road, but that will
be handled through the construction of the Westcliff subdivision.
Commissioner Wall asked where the access to the church property would be located. Mr. Eckert
responded that they will have two access points off McDonwell School Road and an access in the
future off Newkirk Lane when it is built.
Commissioner Culley asked questions about the church's request for parkland dedication fees to
be waived. Eddie Eckert said that the church is a nonprofit organization and they would like
consideration. He said most members are residents who live in the community and they have
already paid parkland dedication fees when their homes were built.
Commissioner Swift asked staff what is the procedure to waive parkland dedication fees. Barry
responded that they have always been paid and have never been waived, but it is up to City
Council to consider the request.
Commissioner Wall asked the engineer if there would be an acceleration or deceleration lanes on
McDonwell School Road to accommodate the two access points for the church. The engineer,
Eddie Eckert, responded that there were no improvement plans associated with the church plat.
Chairman Gasper asked staff if they have looked at the traffic patterns in the area. Staff
responded that would be looked at when the final plat is filed for Westcliff. Commissioner Wall
suggested that a note is sent to City Council stating the Commission's concerns about safety on
McDonwell School Road.
Commissioner Culley asked about what days the church would be opened. Eddie Eckert
responded that the church would be open seven days a week; however, most traffic will be
generated on Sunday mornings. He said that all new subdivisions along McDonwell School Road
have not been required to do road improvements, but have put fees into and escrow account. He
said the fees are available for the City to do the improvements.
Commissioner Wall said the traffic patterns need to be studied in order to accommodate the cars
entering and exiting by making left hand turns into the church property. Commissioner Swift
asked if the city has required Westcliff to provide a queuing lane. Barry LeBaron said the study
would be required when the final plat for Westcliff is submitted. Eddie Eckert said the church is
only a minor portion of the overall area that will be developed, and the church has dedicated right-
of-way per the thoroughfare plan requirement.
Commissioner Culley moved that they suspend the rules and allow public discussion ofthe
plat. Commissioner Swift seconded the motion. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
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Linda Baker, 404 W. McDonwell School Road, addressed the Commission. She said that Newkirk
Lane and the trail that is proposed to be constructed on the east side of the street places the trail
next to her property. She said that the trail placed in that location may create a danger. She said
that she has racehorses she breeds on her property and when they breed they can become
dangerous to people who would try to disturb them. She said she is publicly warning the City that
there may be liability issues if anyone is hurt because of the trail being located next to her
property.
Commissioner Cully asked what would the logistics be to move the trail? Staff said that the city
park will be on the east side of the street and the trail should be incorporated into the park.
Commissioner Hollis asked ifthe Commission does not specifically address the park location and
the location of the trail, could it be changed later? Discussion pursued relating to McPherson Park
and how the exact location has not been set yet.
Chairman Gasper moved to approve the LDS plat with a notation stating that is clearly
indicated that the church is responsible for building the street and for construction of the
trail on the east side of the street if it evolves that way. She did not recommend approval of
the waiver of parkland dedication fees. Commissioner Hollis seconded the motion. The
vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
2. PUBLIC HEARING - Text Amendments to the PUD-C (0-99-1131) for The Village at
Colleyville, Case Z-02-01 0
Barry LeBaron presented the case to the Commission. He said with the nature of the
development and the mixed-use proponents of the ordinance if they approve this amendment,
there will probably be more changes in a year as the subdivision develops. He explained why
staff is expanding the original ordinance rather than creating a new one that amends the original
one. Mr. LeBaron said it becomes difficult to enforce when three or four ordinances are put
together and there is a greater chance of conflicts within the ordinances. He reviewed the
changes made to the original ordinance.
Chairman Gasper opened the public hearing. Those present wishing to speak were:
Joe Moore, 123 Acuff, said that the tables for the encroachments did not make direct reference to
the ADA requirements. He said the ADA requires a four-foot free flow pattern. He said that the
awnings allowed over the street might conflict with the trees. He spoke about 90% coverage
versus 95% coverage, and said that the most difficult aspect of the ordinance to enforce would be
the grand opening sign regulations.
Dee McNosky, 5108 Pleasant Run Road, spoke about the need for outside tables to be placed in
such a way that they do not block the fire access easements nor be a hindrance for anyone with
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disabilities. She said that the Village at Colleyville presents a very unique situation for regulations
and she appreciates all the work that is being done to adopt an ordinance that addresses the
special conditions needed for the project. She said she is the Chairman of the Zoning Board of
Adjustment and the proposed regulations will prevent future business and property owners having
to go before the Zoning Board of Adjustments and seek variances. Ms. McNosky also said that
her property is not a part of the Village at Colleyville.
Robert Figueroa, 817 Central Drive, asked questions about the regulations for off-premise
alcoholic beverage consumption.
Steve Groffman, 815 Central Drive, asked questions about reducing the rear building setback line
from five feet to four feet. He asked if that regulation applied to the properties on the outside
perimeter of the Village at Colleyville? He said the exterior properties should have a 5-foot
requirement.
There being no one else present wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Mr. LeBaron told the commissioners that the five-foot setback requirements were established in
1999 and 5-foot setbacks were common at that time. He said when the property was platted the
utility companies only required a 4-foot easement and there seems to be no need for a one-foot
parcel of property that could not be used and the 4-foot setback requirement makes the easement
and setback requirement one in the same.
Barry LeBaron said people cannot drink on sidewalks per the open container law. He explained
the regulations for off premise consumption and the requirements for restaurants to fence the
outside seating area if they allow alcoholic beverages so the customer would have to walk back
through the restaurant to exit.
Commissioner Wall said the DRC letter that is included in the packet recommends that the
setback requirements not be changed to 4-foot. Barry LeBaron responded that he overrode the
DRC recommendations. Fire Chief Johnston said the eliminating one-foot of the setback
requirement was not significant for the fire department. He said they would review all building
plans to make sure there is adequate fire protection.
Commissioner Swift moved to suspend the rules to allow additional discussion from the
audience. Commissioner Culley seconded the motion. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
Dee McNosky said she wanted to redirect the original question about exterior setbacks. She
asked if there would be a change in the buffer? Staff said there would be no change in the buffer.
Commissioner Sellers asked if the Commission was doing anything now to set precedence within
the City. Barry LeBaron responded that every time a PUD is approved it is for the purpose of
taking a departure from the standard zoning category regulations. He said the Commission
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cannot grant variations from the regulations for the CC1 or CC2 zoning categories, but a PUD is
designed to meet the particular needs of the developer and no two PUD's are alike. He said that
setting precedence is not a concern.
Chairman Gasper spoke about sandwich board signs and asked if there could be a provision for
podium display signs or easel signs so that restaurants could post their menus.
Commissioner Wall asked about outside sales other than food on sidewalks. He was directed to
page 4 Section m. and also page 8 under retail merchandise of the proposed ordinance.
Chairman Gasper recommended that the commissioners go through the ordinance page by page.
Chairman Gasper went through the proposed ordinance and asked for the commissioners to
comment on any changes they want to discuss or make.
Commissioner Hollis commented on adding the language for ADA requirements to the ordinance.
Barry LeBaron suggested inserting those requirements under #3 on page 8 where it talks about
temporary structures not blocking pedestrian traffic and adding not blocking fire exits. Jimmy
Archie, representing the Village at Colleyville, said that in regards to ADA requirements, they are
required to provide a 3-foot clearance. He distributed pictures they took of businesses on Main
Street in Grapevine that have overhangs, planter boxes, and tables.
Commissioner Wall said he wanted to address the issue of retail merchandise being place out on
a sidewalk. He said he finds that stores place their sale merchandise outside and it does not
improve the quality of the establishment.
Commissioner Culley asked if there would be full time sidewalk sales. He said that extending the
walls of the shops might not be inappropriate.
Chairman Gasper said she sees that there are two issues they need to discuss. One issue is
outside tables and that does not seem be to a problem, but the other issue is outside
merchandise displays and there seems to be concerns about that issue.
Richard Myers, 1111 S. Main Street, Grapevine, said that one of the points of the Village at
Colleyville is that the development is pedestrian oriented and offers visual interest with flower
shops displaying flowers, merchants with vegetable stands, and toy shops with outside
merchandise displays. He said that the Owners' Association will regulate the types of displays
and they want to encourage the creativity of the shop owners. There was discussion about the
Owners' Association and how it functions. He said the Village at Colleyville would like to have
from time to time an annual sidewalk sale where it is like a festival and all the merchants may
have merchandise out on the sidewalks. He said that would obviously not be an every day
occurrence and they would explore how that would be regulated.
Chairman Gasper requested Councilman Feldman to come forward and address the Commission
regarding ADA requirements since she is a lawyer. Chairman Gasper asked Councilman
Feldman if the Commission needed to incorporate the ADA requirements into the PUD.
Councilman Feldman said she wanted to qualify her remarks by saying she is not the city attorney,
but answered that the businesses and the development are required to be in compliance with the
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Federal regulations, as well as the City of Colleyville regulations.
Commissioner Sellers said he wanted to propose that they need to put a restriction on sidewalk
sales into the PUD in order to maintain continuity and possibly only allow sidewalk sales four-
times per year since they don't know how strong the Owners Association will be.
Commissioner Wall said he is at a loss as to how they want to add regulations. He suggested
sending a note to the City Council and point out the issue because they know the Council will
negotiate with the developer on any sensitive issues or put some hard and fast regulations in the
ordinance. He said he recommends not putting any hard and fast numbers into the ordinance, but
simply point out to the City Council what the areas are that may be an issue on which some of the
commissioners see a possibility of a problem. Commissioner Wall said the proposed ordinance
has already been negotiated between staff and the developer and the Council should do the
tweaking.
Chairman Gasper said she believes the Planning and Zoning Commission would have a difficult
time making modifications at this meeting because of not knowing what the appropriate language
would be. She said that they could request that staff take this proposal forward and they have two
sets of ordinances, one the way it is, and one which extracts the restrictions for the retail
merchants as far as frequency for outside displays.
Commissioner Jones said the Commission is restricting capitalism. He said they are trying to
determine what times a year someone can put things on sale and the merchants' business cycles
and their merchandise may not correspond with that time of year. He said by adding the
restrictions, the Commission is limiting the ability of the merchants to be successful.
Commissioner Sellers said he is all for a store having a sale anytime they want it as long as it is
held within the premises and they keep the streets clean. Commissioner Wall said Commissioner
Sellers is exactly right. Commissioner Sellers said he is not trying to tell them how to run their
business.
Chairman Gasper said she thinks to the extent they restrict the frequency that merchandise can
be displayed on the street; they are in fact impacting the operation of the merchants' business.
She said she would probably tend to be much more liaise-faire than some people. She said her
sense is that there is not a consensus of the Commission regarding the issue of outdoor
merchandise displays.
Commissioner Jones said the ordinance addresses bay windows, planters, outside merchandise,
sandwich board signs and if the Commission wants to address those items, they could say
either/or on some of those things. He said if someone put all of those things out, he doubts if they
could keep a three-foot clearance because it would be a real snake path. He said an alternative
to restricting the times of year for outside displays of merchandise, may be that they want to say
the merchants can have either this and/or that.
Commissioner Culley said he thinks the developer has a clear vision as to how the Village is going
to work. He said the Village will work differently than the Albertson's/K-Mart strip center where
they do have restrictions on the number of times merchants can put tables outside because
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clearly some merchants would do it 24/7. He said he is beginning to understand they may want to
make that more accessible for businesses that display fruits and vegetables or flowers.
Commissioner Culley said he would ask the developer to give some consideration to the fact that
the citizens have listened to the commissioners for 1 % hours describing six and twelve inch
encroachments into the public rights-of-way and all of a sudden the commissioners are giving the
developer free gratis to put any type of tables outside and any type of sales anytime the developer
wants to. Commissioner Culley said the developer's vision is clear as to the development and his
association and it is in the best interest of the citizens that the commissioners don't waste
anymore time. He said he is interested in the developer and the businesses succeeding.
Chairman Gasper asked the developer to come forward. She said she assumed Mr. Myers has
carefully read the revised ordinance and asked him if there was anything in the proposed
ordinance that would adversely affect the economic viability of the development. Richard Myers
said they are O.k. with the ordinance. He said they had a lot of discussion with the city staff and
there were a lot of comments that went back and forth and there has been a lot of give and take at
this point. Chairman Gasper asked if city staff was comfortable with balancing the needs of the
businesses to grow, develop, and prosper in Colleyville as well a maintaining the quality and
safety for the citizens. She asked Mr. LeBaron if an appropriate balance has been reached.
Mr. LeBaron said the ordinance was not drafted in haste. He said the meetings with the developer
were started in October and they've met approximately twice a month since that time. He said it
has taken quite some time before the Commission has seen the ordinance. He said it is like other
ordinances that are as comprehensive; there will be bits and pieces of it that everyone did not
agree on. Mr. LeBaron said the Village at Colleyville is a much different type of development than
a traditional one with forty-foot setbacks with plenty of space between the buildings.
Richard Myers said this has been an interesting process and one thing he wanted to point out is
they looked at other ordinances like Southlake Towne Square and that one is significantly less
detailed and they didn't get into all the issues. He said the Village at Colleyville ordinance is much
more restrictive in many areas like setbacks from the curb for columns and canopies. He said the
regulations are generally reasonably close to other projects that are developed that look like the
Village at Colleyville.
Chairman Gasper continued to go through the ordinance page by page and highlighted the
changes. She said the Commission has issues with merchandise display and questioned if 60
days was sufficient for grand opening signs. She said that at what point does the visual interest
become clutter and where is that point?
Commissioner Swift said that page 13, paragraph "j" clarifies the issue of visual interest versus
clutter as it places the enforcement on the Owners' Association.
Commissioner Sellers said that like any homeowners' association, the Owners' Association still
has to abide by the law, so what ever the Commissioner or the City Council sets forth, they can't
go beyond those regulations. Commissioner Swift said he doesn't disagree with that, but some of
the items are fairly nebulous, like how often is often, or how big of a display of t-shirts can a
merchant display? He said those displays do generate traffic and that is what the commissioners
are all involved in is trying to make the development a success. Commissioner Sellers said he
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agrees with the success part but they are also trying to keep the look of the development clean
and not allow it to get out of hand.
Chairman Gasper said she doesn't think it is in the merchants' best interest to have a place that is
not attractive and enticing to customers. She said it gets back to what extent does the City of
Colleyville want to manage or micro manage what goes on in the Village at Colleyville and how
much do they want to rely upon market forces as Commissioner Jones pointed out.
Commissioner Culley said in his mind, the developer has answered the challenge as to terms of
control and how the development will look. He said he believes staff and the developer have done
an excellent job in preparing a document that tries to cover as much as possible. Commissioner
Culley said the Commission has raised the issues as they should do and the developer has risen
to the challenge and has answered the issues. He said he is satisfied the Village is going to
control it to the best interest of the merchants and also the public. Commissioner Culley said he
has no problem with the way the ordinance is currently written.
Barry LeBaron said staff and the developer talked for about two hours on special events and the
issue of how long a merchant can put merchandise out may be more global than just one specific
store. He said they realized for the Village to be successful, it would frequently want to have a
village wide sidewalk sale or have festivals within the development. He said staff did not feel they
were ready to bring that language forward at this point, but that may come forward later. Mr.
LeBaron said the City currently has provisions for a Mass Gathering in the Code of Ordinances.
He said it says if an event will bring in 500 citizens or more, the organizer would have to come
before the City Council and get a Mass Gathering permit. He said there is protection already in
place if it happens before they get the language added to the Village PUD as they would have to
get the permit for each event they want to have.
Barry LeBaron said that page 11 Section 9 c., Security Fencing in the proposed ordinance there is
a requirement that was put into the original ordinance that requires the developer to construct an
8-foot wrought iron fence with openings for gates along the entire western property line where the
PUD is adjacent to the City owned park property. He said that made sense at the time for security
reasons before the City Hall and Library were planned to be in the Villages, but since they will
abut much of that common line, the city doesn't feel they want that fence. He said the city will put
some type of landscape buffer at that location and they don't want an 8-foot wrought iron barrier.
He said staff proposes that when the Commission considers the proposed ordinance, that they
add language to Section 9 c. to exclude where the City Hall and Library property abuts the park.
He said the developer still has to put in an 8-foot wrought iron fence with gates and openings
where it abuts the park but not where it abuts City Hall and the Library.
Chairman Gasper asked if the Commission wants to keep the sixty days limitation for grand
opening signs or remove it? She said the Commission had some agreement that staff needs to
look at the sandwich board regulations to allow easel and podium signs as well.
Commissioner Culley moved to recommend approval ofthe text amendments to the PUD-C,
0-99-1131 for the Village at Colleyville with the exception that under Section G-9-c. the 8-
foot wrought iron fence is excluded where the City Hall and Library property abuts the park.
Commissioner Swift seconded the motion.
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Commissioner Culley accepted a friendly amendment by Commissioner Hollis that the
sandwich board sign terminology will be updated to include easel and podium signs.
Commissioner Swift seconded the friendly amendment. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
The Commissioners adjourned recessed the meeting for a break and returned at 9:20 p.m.
3. PUBLIC HEARING - Special Use Permit for an accessory building, requested by Howard
Holt for Pat & Ed Wadley, on Lot 1 R, Block 1, Skipper's Estate located at 5200 Bill's Lane,
Case Z-02-011
Barry LeBaron presented the case to the commissioners and reviewed the staff briefing. He told
the Commission that the applicants are requesting a Special Use Permit to construct an accessory
building on the property and they intend to live in the structure while the main house is completely
renovated. He said they would then use the facility for a caretaker's quarters. He described the
2-story building. Mr. LeBaron said the proposed building exceeds the requirements for maximum
size, height and use requirements and the applicants are requesting a variance from those
requirements, as allowed by the Code. He said the request is consistent with the Master Plan and
the wishes of the area homeowners should be the most important factor in the decision to grant
the Special Use Permit or not. He told the commissioners that they might establish conditions
different than or in addition to the normal requirements of the Land Development Code.
Commissioner Swift asked Mr. LeBaron if the accessory building would be the same architecture
as the home. Mr. LeBaron responded that the commissioners should ask the applicant.
Chairman Gasper opened the public hearing. Those present wishing to speak were:
Ed Wadley, 5200 Bill's Lane, the applicant. He said he and his wife want a two-story home in the
French tradition and the house would be constructed with Austin Stone. He said his wife is a
historical research librarian and the upper level of the accessory building will serve as the library.
He said there would be approximately 10' of space between the main house and the accessory
building and the rooflines will be equal. He said once the main dwelling is renovated, the
accessory building would be used as a garage with a residential area to be used as a study.
There being no one else present wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Ed Wadley responded to the Commission's a question saying the architect for the renovations and
accessory building is the same architect who designed the pool house. He said the pool house is
20' by 40', 280 square feet in size.
Barry LeBaron told the commissioners that if the main dwelling and proposed accessory building
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were attached by sharing a common wall, the applicant would not need a special use permit and
the Commission would not be considering the case.
Chairman Gasper moved to recommend approval ofthe Special Use Permit. Commissioner
Sellers seconded the motion. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
4. PUBLIC HEARING - Amendments to the PUD-R (0-96-1052) for Spring Garden Addition,
requested by Doug Henderson for State park Colleyville, Ltd., located at the northeast
corner of Cheek Sparger Road and Jackson Road, Case Z-02-012
Barry LeBaron presented the case to the Commission and reviewed the staff briefing. He told
them that the development is approximately 40% built out and the purpose of the amendments is
to allow the developer to expand the style of dwellings and offer an alternative. He said if the
amendments were allowed, the developer would have to replat the subdivision.
Chairman Gasper opened the public hearing. Those present wishing to speak were:
Bill Wilson, a resident within Spring Garden, said he bought into the development with the plan
that the subdivision will be built out as townhomes. He indicated that there is a large group of
residents present at the meeting who all have an investment in the property and they want to
protect it. He said the developer has not consulted them about the changes and they want to
make sure that the new ideas do not destroy their investment values and yet they want to facilitate
the completion of the subdivision if it will improve their investments. He said they don't know
enough to determine what they want to do and if they are for against the proposal.
Doug Henderson, 3602 Lake Champlain, Arlington, Texas, was representing the developer. He
said there is a problem with the economy and the product of attached townhomes are not moving
as well as detached garden homes. He said there would be a mixed use within the development
of town homes and garden homes and that would produce a comprehensive development that
offers smaller lots with less maintenance. He said the homes would appeal to an upscale market
and they need to reduce the total number of lots by two lots. Mr. Henderson said the garden
homes would meet all deed restrictions and have the same architectural restriction as set forth in
the deed restrictions that are included in the original ordinance. He said the original ordinance
does not prohibit detached homes, but they wanted to clarify the ordinance and lower the density.
Mr. Henderson said the detached garden homes would have less impact on the development and
yet would increase the tax revenues. He said the market value on the detached garden homes
would increase the values of all dwellings within Spring Garden. He said the builder that will build
the detached single-family homes built the homes adjacent to the Byron Nelson Golf Course. Mr.
Henderson said the garden homes are compatible with the Master Plan and he quoted from a
Texas Supreme Court ruling. He said the proposed change in the subdivision has no negative
impacts.
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Commissioner Wall questioned Mr. Henderson's analysis of a Texas Supreme Court decision and
asked Mr. Henderson if he was an attorney. Mr. Henderson responded that he is not an attorney,
but has assisted in writing Texas zoning law and mentioned the Farr versus Tibbin case.
Commissioner Culley asked questions about current requirements and potential sale prices of the
proposed homes in Spring Garden. He also asked about demographics. Chairman Gasper
asked about the average time a town home is on the market. The commissioners discussed
square footage of the proposed homes versus the dwellings that are already built.
Chere Kimbell, 3986 Witten Drive, spoke about architectural integrity, property valuation, asked
questions about size of dwellings and if there were any specific plans for the current residents to
review. She said she understands the need to facilitate the building out of the community, but
they have concerns, and yet do not want to impede the building out of Spring Garden.
Bill Robertson, 3961 Holiday Drive, said the developer is not keeping up with the property
maintenance and the place is run down. He said no repairs have been made and the entrance
gates often times do not operate. He said the developer has not had someone on the property to
show the units and those are some of the reasons things are not selling.
Harold Hickman, 3975 Witten, said there have been problems over legal matters between the
developer and builder. He said between 1985 and 1994 they lived in California in a similar
development and people had to stand in line to bid on a unit. He said the key difference between
the end units and the interior units is that the end units sell quicker.
Henry Del Casio, 3980 Witten, said that he has lived in Spring Garden for two days. He said the
marketing of the property has been poor. He said everyone who lives in Spring Garden bought
into a life style. He discussed the demographics of people who want to live in Spring Garden and
the importance of property values. He said that communications have been very poor between
the Title Company, realtor, and developer. He said he has never heard mentioned that it requires
consent of the property owners to change the deed restrictions.
Carol Bertram, 3977 Witten, said they had no idea what was being proposed and they want to
protect their investments in Spring Garden. She said the overall community plan for Spring
Garden was given to them when they bought and they fear deviations. Ms. Bertram said as a
neighborhood they want to see Spring Garden develop.
Earl Hopenrath, a resident in Spring Garden, discussed the demographics and how the
development lends itself to the empty nester or young professionals who don't want upkeep or
maintenance. He said the situation of reaching build out is one of absorption. He said in this
present time the development needs another product. He said Colleyville is not an urban setting
with townhomes, and so the new developer is proposing to build patio homes. He said the homes
will be in the $300,000 range and the cost of the lots will be approximately $60,000. He said there
is a market for patio homes.
Steve Knight, 3917 Felps Court, asked if there were proposals for garages openings along Cheek
Sparger that could be seen from the street. He said the problem with garages facing Cheek
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Sparger is they tend to be unattended and unsupervised and become an attractive crime problem.
He said he has sympathy with the residents because the developer did not communicate with
them. He said that developers feel they live on an island and don't need to communicate.
There being no one else present wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Doug Henderson, representing the developer said that most questions needed to be answered by
the developer.
Commissioner Culley said the point is not to attack the representative, but Mr. Henderson needs
to tell his boss that he, as the developer, is not doing a good job of communicating. He said the
gates and fountains are in disrepair and the homeowners need to be protected. Commissioner
Culley said he wants to see the developer be able to build, but in developing a property there are
no guarantees that the developer will do what he says he will do. Doug Henderson discussed
with the commissioners the kind of homes that the developer intends to build.
Commissioner Swift moved to table the item to allow the developer time to meet with the
residents within Spring Garden. Commissioner Wall seconded the motion.
Commissioner Hollis asked questions about how many units will be attached or detached and
asked if the developer could provide specific layouts.
Chairman Gasper said she sees no redeeming value to the development.
Commissioner Culley said he heard homeowners in Spring Garden specifically state that they
desire whatever it takes to facilitate the completion of the subdivision. He said he wants to give
the developer time to meet with the homeowners.
Commissioner Jones said the developer did not do much to solicit the support of the current
residents.
Commissioner Wall said he does not want to throw out the baby with the bathwater and wants to
allow the homeowners an opportunity to meet with the developer.
Chairman Gasper called for the vote. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
5. TABLED ITEM - Zoning Change from R20 Residential to PUD-R Planned Unit
Development-Residential, requested by Ernest Hedgcoth, Lots 14 & 15, Block 1, Andy
Felps Addition located at 137 Acuff Lane and 136 Cheek Sparger Road, Case Z-02-008
Commissioner Hollis moved to remove the item from the Table. Commissioner Sellers
seconded the motion. The vote being:
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Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
Chairman Gasper spoke about the commissioners' concerns about the drainage. Commissioner
Swift said the drainage comes from upstream and should not be an issue. Commissioner Jones
said if the proposed addition develops, the drainage would get worse.
Barry LeBaron told the commissioners that the developer has made a change to his original plan
and has included a green space on the corner of Felps and Cheek Sparger. He displayed the
topographic map of the area and pointed out that the area is not within the 1 OO-year floodplain.
He said that area is not recognized as a floodplain by FEMA. Mr. LeBaron told the commissioners
that the engineering department said the developer would have to provide plans for the drainage
on the property when they submit a plat.
Tommy Cunningham, 7205 Walden Court, was present to represent the case. He told the
commissioners that the property is currently zoned residential. He said he was a former resident
in Bridlewood Estate and he understands the concerns by those residents about the proximity to
potential commercial development. He said the proposed homes would create a buffer zone and
would be a good compromise. He said he needed a minimum of six lots to be successful. Mr.
Cunningham said the drainage will be handled in the platting process and they are required to
retain the water on sight. He said that six homes would generate 1.2 million dollars on the tax
rolls versus the $30,000 currently being generated. He said this is the highest and best use of the
property and they would put in the deed restrictions that the property behind the lots would be
used for commercial businesses.
Commissioner Swift asked Mr. Cunningham questions about the density and average lot size. He
asked about the open area and the maintenance of the open area. Mr. Cunningham said the
homeowners would maintain the open area as he is proposing to set up a homeowners'
association.
Chairman Gasper had questions about the generations of income from residential homes versus
commercial businesses.
Commissioner Culley discussed with Mr. Cunningham the proposed plans and cost of the homes.
Mr. Cunningham said the homes would sell for $200,000 and he distributed pictures showing the
style of architecture he plans to build. He said they would be approximately 2,000 to 2,300 square
foot in size. Chairman Gasper commented that the lot sizes are the same as the lots in
Bridlewood Estates. She said she senses that the Commission is in favor of residential
development along the street and they will provide a screen from the commercial. The
Commission discussed the viability of residential homes selling next to commercial uses.
Barry LeBaron told the commissioners that the property is currently zoned R20 and the Master
Plan indicates that the lot along Felps and Cheek Sparger is planned for residential use and the
lot along Felps and Acuff is planned for commercial use. He said a note could be placed on the
plat stating the property behind the subdivision is planned for commercial use.
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Commissioner Culley moved to suspend the rules to allow people in the audience to speak.
Commissioner Swift seconded the motion. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
Those present wishing to speak were:
Joe Moore, 133 Acuff, said that Lot 13 is due west of his property and when they moved into their
home, they knew the property was projected for commercial development. He said the Master
Plan use for the property fits in that location. He said there are several different kinds of buffers
and the street, Felps Drive, is a buffer. He said the creek behind Bridlewood is a buffer. He said
that with the deep lots along Felps Drive that back up to Bridlewood Estates, and the width of
Felps Drive, Bridlewood Estates is 400' away from potential commercial development. Mr. Moore
said he wants to be able to get as much value from his property as he can. He said if the
commission changes the Master Plan by allowing this development, they take away future
commercial property and he wants to see the City go forward with their commercial plans. He said
he had a problem with the density of the subdivision.
Mrs. Virginia Garrett, 128 Cheek Sparger, said she has reported to the commissioners in the past
about the drainage problems associated with her land and with the most recent rains, this property
was under solid water. She said the trees on the property are dying. Mrs. Garrett said she does
not feel comfortable with not knowing how the drainage for the proposed development will be
handled. She said when Payless was built the flow of water came directly down Cheek Sparger
and they had to install French drains and a sump pump to prevent the water from coming into their
home. Chairman Gasper asked Mrs. Garrett if she could be assured that the drainage problems
would be alleviated and the developer would improve the drainage, would she be in support of the
proposed development. Mrs. Garret said she would rather not have houses.
Steve Knight, 3917 Felps Court, asked why did the density cease to be an issue? He said six
houses on small lots are a problem. He asked when did the land behind the proposed houses get
to be zoned commercial? He said his main concern is the density and he has concerns with
telling people the property behind the houses will go commercial when it might not.
There being no one else present wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Gasper referred to the Master Plan versus the Zoning Map. She said the density per
the Master Plan is 1.8 dwellings per acre. She spoke about the drainage.
Mr. LeBaron displayed the topographic map ofthe area and explained the drainage patterns in the
area.
Commissioner Culley spoke about density and asked Steve Knight why that density should not be
allowed on that property after viewing the style of homes the developer proposes to build? Mr.
Knight explained that he has concerns not oppositions. He questioned how close the homes
would be to each other and was told that the houses and lots would be similar in size to
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Chairman Gasper opened the public hearing. Those present wishing to speak were:
Luann Edwards, 220 W. Glade Road, said that the streets on the plat looked funny to her and one
street is only big enough for one-way traffic.
The commissioners and staff discussed the traffic patterns in the area. Main Street from Cottage
Lane is only one way to allow traffic to circulate out Forest Oaks. Staff said Casa Lane is a two
way street and the Fire Department wanted two 12-foot lanes on Casa Lane.
Commissioner Culled moved to approve the plat with Casa Lane being widened an addition
two-feet. Commissioner Swift seconded the motion. The vote being:
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Swift, Jones, Sellers, Hollis, Gasper
Noes: None
7. Citizens' comments regarding items not on the agenda: There were none.
8. Staff comments, reports and discussion items: There were none.
9. Commissioners' comments and reports: There were none.
ADJOURNMENT:
The Commission moved to adjourn the meeting at 11 :45 p.m. The motion was seconded
and passed by acclamation.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jan Levy
Planning & Zoning Assistant
levyj@ci.colleyville.tx.us
Approved on: April 8, 2002 as corrected. (Page 8 - changed "adjourned" to "recessed")
NO TE: As a matter of public record, an audio recording of this Planning and Zoning Commission meeting is available
upon request.
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Bridlewood. He said that helps him accept the plan and he is concerned about the aesthetic
results and if the end result is pleasing he could support the project.
Chairman Gasper said she thinks there is a market for homes in the $200,000 price range and
they would be an improvement to the area.
The commissioners discussed with staff the issue of commercial development behind the
proposed homes. Barry LeBaron explained the Master Plan and the current zoning map. The
commission commented that commercial development would generate more trips per day than
residential development.
Tommy Cunningham, the developer, discussed the width of the proposed lots and the setback
requirements. The commissioners discussed with the developer the plans for commercial
development behind the houses. The developer said that the Master Plan is a vision and
sometimes it doesn't work out the way it is planned. He said it makes more sense for the corner
of Cheek Sparger to be commercial rather than the residential that is indicated on the Master
Plan. He said his proposed change on the property will begin immediate income for the city and
the area needs newness brought to it.
Commissioner Sellers said he has concerns about the water and does not want to have a problem
with the development. He said he is concerned about too many lots for the drainage issues.
Barry LeBaron said the commission could require the developer to provide a preliminary drainage
plan and make the condition in the ordinance. He said the plan might have to be altered at the
platting stage.
The commissioners discussed with the developer the logic behind the higher price range as
opposed to the current neighborhood.
Commissioner Jones said he also has a problem with the water on the property and believes that
it could only get worse. Chairman Gasper said it is her sense that the zoning change probably
would not be approved as is, but if the developer's engineer was present to give them a comfort
level regarding proposed drainage, they may be able to reach a comfort level.
Chairman Gasper moved to table the case to allow the developer to have his engineer
present. Commissioner Swift seconded the motion. The vote being
Ayes: Wall, Culley, Jones, Sellers, Gasper
Noes: Swift, Hollis
6. PUBLIC HEARING - A Replat of Lots 11, 13,43 & 59, The Village at Colleyville requested
by the City of Colleyville for the City Hall and Library, located at 100 Main Street Case P-
02-004
Barry LeBaron presented the case to the Commission and reviewed the staff briefing.
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