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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSign Board of Appeals-Minutes-12/8/2010Z "'J ~,~ ~~ ~! ,~ ~` ~, :;_~. City of Colleyville Minutes -Final Sign Board of Appeals City Hall 100 Main Street Colleyville, Texas 76034 817.503.1000 www.colleyville.com Wednesday, December 8, 2010 7:15 PM City Council Chambers 1. CALL TO ORDER The Zoning Board of Adjustments meeting of the City of Colleyville was called to order by Chairman McNosky on December 8, 2010 at 8:03 p.m. 2. ROLL CALL Present: Board members Jim Gotcher, Ed Moore, Dee McNosky, Tracy Doyle and John Okray (Alternate 2) Absent: Board members Skip Reynolds and Eric Hulet Staff Present: Ron Ruthven, Jackie Reyff and Amy Shelley 3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Board member Moore moved to approve the September 14, 2010 meeting minutes as written. Board member Doyle seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 -Gotcher, Moore, Doyle, McNosky, John Okray, Alt. 2 Absent: 2 -Reynolds, Hulet, Alt. 1 5. PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS 5a Case SC10-005 - Approval of a request for a variance from the sign regulations for a monument sign on Lot 1, Block 1 of the Cannatelta Business Plaza Addition located at 7111 Colleyville Boulevard. Jackie Reyff presented the case and briefed the Board members. Kirt and Donna Kaufman, 7111 Colleyville Boulevard, the applicants and property owners, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 8:16 p.m. Board member Moore questioned Mrs. Kaufman regarding if the sign is a reader board or changeable sign. Mrs. Kaufman replied the board could City of Colleyville pegs ~ Printed on 1h2/2011 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final December 8, 2010 be changed but it is not electronic. Board member Okray questioned Mrs. Kaufman regarding the cascade look. Mrs. Kaufman replied the columns are different sizes. Board member Moore stated there are two requests, one for the location and one for the design. Chairman McNosky stated, for clarity, that staff is recommending approval on the location of the sign but not the design of the sign. Ron Ruthven concurred and stated the columns must be masonry, according to the sign code. Board member Gotcher questioned Mrs. Kaufman regarding what are the plans if the variance for the placement of the sign is approved but not the design of the sign. Mrs. Kaufman replied not wanting to put two eight foot columns because the sign would become cumbersome. She stated she may make the columns smaller. Board member Gotcher stated the layout of the properly has created the need for this design on the sign. Mrs. Kaufman concurred. Chairman McNosky questioned Mrs. Kaufman regarding if a .more traditional sign limit the visibility of the location. Mrs. Kaufman stated the sign gives them an opportunity to show case their designs by being unique, not necessarily limit the visibility of the business. Board member Moore questioned Mrs. Kaufman regarding if the trees, in the summer time, will block the visibility of the sign. Mrs. Kaufman replied the highway department has removed the trees that would block the sign. Board member Moore questioned Mrs. Kaufman regarding if the placement of the sign would be on the north or south side of the driveway. Mrs. Kaufman replied the north side of the driveway. There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 8:22 p.m. Board member Gotcher stated there is a unique layout of the property. He further stated this is a true hardship because of what the state is requiring. He stated the design requirements are not that far from what the code requires and therefore could support the request. Chairman McNosky concurred and stated this sign is being proposed in the spirit of the code requirements. City of Colleyville Page 2 Printed on 1/12/2011 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final December 8, 2010 Board member Moore moved to approve case SC10-005 as written with both the location and design of the sign. Board member Gotcher seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 -Gotcher, Moore, Doyle, McNosky, John Okray, Alt. 2 5b Case SC10-006 - Approval of a request for a variance from the sign regulations for a monument sign on Lot 3R1A, Block 1 of the Centerpark Addition located at 4607 Colleyville Boulevard Jackie Reyff presented the case and briefed the Board members. Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 8:27 p.m. Van Miller, representing the property owner, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. Board member Moore questioned Mr. Miller regarding if the existing sign was previously approved as a reader board sign. Mr. Miller replied the existing nor the proposed sign are not being requested as a reader board sign. Board member Moore questioned staff regarding if the height of the sign is being caused by the base of the sign. Ron Ruthven replied the height of the sign is measured from the base to the top of the sign, not necessarily the actual sign area. Mr. Miller stated architecturally, the roof, is unique to go along with the bank design. Board member Moore questioned Mr. Miller regarding if the current and proposed sign area are the same size. Mr. Miller replied yes. Board member Moore questioned staff regarding if the total square footage is measured by just the sign area, not necessarily the masonry that surrounds the sign, correct? Ron Ruthven replied correct, however, the total height is measured including the masonry. Board member Okray questioned Mr. Miller regarding what are the options if the variance is not approved. Mr. Miller stated there are really not a lot of options. Board member Moore stated the existing sign is 12 feet tall and the proposed sign is 10 feet tall. He further stated that is a decrease in size not an increase in size, overall. Ron Ruthven stated the existing sign does comply with current code requirements. He further stated the City of Colleyville Page 3 Printed on 1/12/2011 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final December 8, 2010 variance requested is for the newly proposed sign's location and dimensions. Discussion occurred between the Board members regarding the sign variance being requested and the existing sign. Board member Moore stated he agreed with the new location of the sign but further stated he did not agree with staff's recommendation of denial to the height requirement. He stated the applicant is requesting a less height than what was approved before. Chairman McNosky stated the motion could be separated or could be done together. There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 8:36 p.m. Board member Doyle questioned Mr. Miller regarding if the sign is pushed back any further, would it place the new sign within the parking lot area. Mr. Miller replied there is room but yes, it would be within the parking spaces. Ron Ruthven stated there would be a sidewalk off set from the property line, however, the City would not know until the street is widened. Board member Gotcher stated there have been lots of issues with SH26, with Txdot, some have been approved and some have been denied. Board member Gotcher moved to approve with the setback requested and deny the height on case SC10-006. Board member Okray seconded. Board member Moore stated he would like the variance to be separated for the vote; he stated he wanted to a separate vote for the placement and a separate vote for the height. Board member Gotcher disagreed and stated he wanted to see what happens when the other board members vote. Ron Ruthven stated not having an issue with seperating the vote. City of Colleyville Page 4 Printed on 1/12/2011 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final December 8, 2010 The motion failed by the following vote: Aye: 3 -Gotcher, Doyle, John Okray, Alt. 2 Nay: 2 -Moore, McNosky Absent: 1 -Reynolds Board member Moore moved to approve the setback variance requested for case SC10-006. Board member Doyle seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 -Gotcher, Moore, Doyle, McNosky, John Okray, Alt. 2 Absent: 1 -Reynolds Board member Moore moved to approve the height requested for case SC10-006. Board member Doyle seconded. The motion failed by the following vote: Aye: 3 -Moore, Doyle, McNosky Nay: 2 -Gotcher, John Okray, Alt. 2 Absent: 1 -Reynolds Chairman McNosky stated the setback has been approved, however, the height variance requested has not been approved. Board member Moore stated he would like staff to reevaluate the drawings regarding the sign request. Ron Ruthven stated he would research to see if the previous sign has had any variances previously approved. 5c Case SC10-007 - Request for a variance from the sign regulations for a monument sign on Lot 1, Block 1 of the Coptic Acres Addition located at 1110 John McCain Jackie Reyff presented the case and briefed the Board members. Awad Eskander, the applicant, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Eskander if the sign is already constructed? Mr. Eskander replied yes, the lettering is not on the sign. Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Eskander regarding if this was constructed as a wall and then later was thought it could be used for a sign. Mr. Eskander replied yes. City of Colleyville Page 5 Printed on 1/12/2011 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final December 8, 2010 Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 8:50 p.m. Jack Olsen, 7717 Shalimar Court, came forward and spoke in support of the request. Board member Doyle questioned staff regarding if this was a planned development. Ron Ruthven replied the zoning for the property is R20-Single Family Residential. He stated a church is allowed in a residential district, however, the signage is restricted in a residentially zoned area. Board member Moore questioned staff regarding if this sign is not approved, would the sign have to be reduced or demolished. Ron Ruthven replied yes, however, if the variance is denied, the applicant can appeal to City Council. He stated they could keep the wall if they remove the lettering. Chairman McNosky stated the applicants are in a unique situation because of the location and lack of visability. She further stated the sign is very tasteful in relation to the church. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Eskander if the lettering is on the sign. Mr. Eskander replied no, the lettering has been ordered in hopes of using it as a sign. Chairman McNosky stated understanding the need for the sign .because of the location on Pleasant Run Road. Board member Okray stated the wall can stay, correct. Chairman McNosky replied yes. There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 8:54 p.m. Board member Moore moved to approve case SC10-007 as written Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Eskander regarding the lettering. Mr. Eskander replied the lettering is a type of foam lettering with a gold leaf covering with a depth of about an inch or an inch and half, about 14 inches in height. He further stated the lettering has been done so that it could be read from John McCain. Board member McNosky seconded. City of Colleyville Page 8 Printed on 1/12/2011 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final December 8, 2010 The motion was denied by the following vote: Aye: 3 -Gotcher, Moore, McNosky Nay: 2 -Doyle, John Okray, Alt. 2 Board member Okray stated the wall could be engraved as opposed to letters sticking out. Ron Ruthven stated there is nothing in the code, as it exists, for engraving. Chairman McNosky stated the engraving could not be seen like lettering. She further questioned staff regarding how could the applicant utilize the wall for a sign. Ron Ruthven replied there is another church, in the city, that does meet code, that is fully masonry, with recessed lettering. He stated there are no lettering standards within the code. He stated the Board can make a recommendation and if the applicant wishes, they can appeal it to City Council Board member Gotcher questioned staff if the Board could approve the wall to be used as a sign, but that the applicant must get with staff regarding the lettering. Ron Ruthven stated not being comfortable with making that recommendation. He stated the lettering could be specified to be no more than 12 inches, maybe a black or dark lettering and if the applicant does not like the recommendation, then they can appeal it to City Council. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Eskander regarding what size is the proposed lettering.. Mr. Eskander stated the lettering proposed is to be about 14 inches. He further stated that the church committee went all over the city looking .for similar signs to compare. He stated they are open to reduce the size but that with all of the other components of this sign, such as landscaping and trees, the size of the lettering is important to consider. Board member Gotcher moved to approve the request as requested with the lettering to be no more than 12 inches in height and that the smaller letters be in proportion to the lettering on the top for case SC10-007. Board member Moore seconded. Board member Doyle stated this will bring the sign much closer to being in compliance with the code. Ron Ruthven stated there are no lettering requirements on monument signs. City of Colleyville page 7 Printed on 1/12/2011 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final December 8, 2010 The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 - Gotcher, Moore, Doyle, McNosky, John Okray, Alt. 2 Absent: 1 -Reynolds 6. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:09 p.m. I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall on Friday, December 3, 2010 by 5:00 p.m. Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant The meeting minutes were approved on January 11, 2011. City of Colleyville page g Printed on 1/12/2017