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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSign Board of Appeals-Minutes-11/11/2008;;~ . City of Colleyville 100 Main Street YrnrZ_ Colleyville, Texas 76034 Minutes -Final 817.503.1000 ,.:~:;_ viww.colleyville.com Sign Board of Appeals Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:00 PM City Council Chambers 1. CALL TO ORDER 2. ROLL CALL The Zoning Board of Adjustments meeting of the City of Colleyville was called to order by Chairman McNosky on November 11, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. Present: Board members Lisa Kenney, Skip Reynolds, Ed Moore, Rich Munson, Dee McNosky and Jim Gotcher (Alternate 2) Absent: Board member Kevin Sams (Alternate 1) Staff present: Ron Ruthven and Justin Bass 3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Board member Reynolds moved to approve the October 14,2 008 meeting minutes as written. Board member Moore seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 6 - Gotcher, Reynolds, Moore, Munson, McNosky, Mayhew, Alt. 2 Absent: 1 -Sams, Alt. 1 5. AGENDA ITEMS 5a. Consideration of an appeal of the decision by the Sign Board of Appeals for a variance from the regulations of the Colleyville Land Development Code regarding sign requirements on Tract 1A1, Abstract 798 of the Joseph H. Harrell Survey located at 1212 W. Murphy Road, Case A-08-011 Justin Bass presented the case and briefed the Board members. Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 7:05 p.m. Ron Robbins, the applicant representing Toll Brothers, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. City of Colleyville Page 1 Printed on v~aiwvy Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final November 11, 2008 Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Robbins regarding if the property located in Somerset Manor is their property? Mr. Robbins replied no. Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Robbins regarding if the red line was the Reserve at Colleyville property? Mr. Robbins replied yes. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Robbins regarding if the property where the sign is to be located, is it for sale? Mr. Robbins replied yes. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Robbins regarding if the current owners are the ones that you have the agreement to have the sign placed on their property? Mr. Robbins replied yes. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Robbins regarding if the future owners have agreed to the sign? Mr. Robbins replied they do not know who the future owners are going to be. He stated they would approach them as well to get an arrangement to have a lease with them for the sign. He stated their alternate plan would be to have a joined sign. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Robbins regarding what were the plans in the beginning of this development knowing that the property set off from Precinct Line? Mr. Robbins replied the marketing of the property in the beginning was an issue, however, he stated he was not involved in the very beginning of the development. He stated he thought they would probably have to come in and request a variance for the off premise sign. He stated one goal was to purchase part of that property to place a sales trailer on it to be able to market the development. He stated that failed, therefore, they have to request the variance. Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Robbins regarding the game plan for the longevity of the proposed sign? Mr. Robbins replied the plan is for a specific temporary sign. Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Robbins regarding a time frame, how long? Mr. Robbins replied the code states a temporary sign can stay up three years from the start of construction or until the development is 90% complete whichever occurs first. Board member Moore questioned staff regarding if the 90% complete is accurate? Ron Ruthven replied the three years from the start of construction or until the development is 90% complete whichever occurs first is correct, but only if the sign is on premise. Mr. Robbins replied they are asking for an additional one year extensions that would either be granted by the Building Official or some other type of enforcing official since the development is so large. Roger Guthrie, 759 Bandit Trail, came forward and spoke in favor of the request. He stated it is in the best interest of the development. Cify of Colleyville Page 2 rrmrea vn ,,,y,~~~~ Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final November 11, 2008 Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Guthrie regarding if he lives on the property? Mr. Gotcher stated not currently, he stated he sold the property. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Robbins regarding if any homes have been built in the Reserve or in Somerset? Mr. Robbins replied none have been built in either development. He stated the streets are in and the lots are in and ready to be built in the Reserve. He stated Somerset is still in the beginning stages. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Robbins regarding how many homes are to be in the Reserve? Mr. Robbins replied a total of 162 at full build out. Board member Moore questioned Mr. Robbins regarding the placement of the sign, why is it not being placed at Murphy Road? Mr. Robbins replied they are very limited with regards to where they can place the sign because of the space available on the property and easements on Murphy and Precinct Line. Board member Moore questioned Mr. Robbins regarding if the property for the proposed sign is 1212 Murphy Road and is it currently for sale? Mr. Robbins replied yes. Discussion occurred between Board member Moore and Mr. Robbins regarding the zoning of the subject property. Board member Gotcher questioned Mr. Robbins if the Somerset development has a sign? Mr. Robbins replied not knowing, he stated the zoning is in place for the development. He stated they may be able to market both communities off of this one sign, maybe, in the future. There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 7:29 p.m. Board member Moore stated this type of sign is not necessary in Colleyville. He stated the homes of this caliber are going to be marketed by realtors. He stated this road does not need to be burdened with this sign. He stated he did not agree with someone else approving an extension on this sign. Board member Reynolds questioned staff regarding what is their recommendation? Justin Bass stated staff recommends denial based on the fact that these off premise signs are not allowed in Colleyville. Board member Reynolds acknowledged the letter received after packets City of Colleyville Page 3 Printed on 1/1aizuus Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final November 11, 2008 delivered. Board member Moore moved to deny case A-08-011. Board member Gotcher seconded. The motion to deny carried by the following vote: Aye: 6 -Gotcher, Reynolds, Moore, Munson, McNosky, Mayhew, Alt. 2 Absent: 1 -Sams, Alt. 1 5b. Consideration of an appeal of the decision by the Sign Board of Appeals for a variance regarding a monument sign on Lot 2, Block 1 of the Northstar Bank Addition, located at 6114 Colleyville Boulevard, Case A-08-012 Justin Bass presented the case and briefed the Board members. Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 7:35 p.m. Rich Driscoll, the applicant, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. Mark Van Buskirk, 103 Belmont Place, came forward and spoke in favor of the request. Board member Reynolds recused himself from the meeting due to his Lion Club Membership at 7:42 p.m. Chairman McNosky questioned staff regarding if City Council has addressed anything new with the sign code? Ron Ruthven stated the Sign Board made recommendations to the City Council and they did review those recommendations, however, the City Council left the code to stand. Discussion occurred with Board member Moore and Mr. Driscoll regarding the different areas of the sign and their particular uses. Board member Moore questioned Mr. Driscoll regarding other signs in the area around his property? Mr. Driscoll replied there is a sign at Able Electronics that is running graphics and changing more frequently, north of the subject property. He stated the building next to ours has not finished their sign. Chairman McNosky questioned staff regarding the variance request is for the frequency of changing the message? Justin Bass replied yes, time and temperature can be the only thing that can flash. City of Colleyville Page 4 Printed on 1/14/2009 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final November 11, 2008 Board member Moore questioned staff regarding if time and temperature are the only things that can be displayed? Justin Bass replied yes. Animation is not allowed and the words can only be shown for five minutes. Ron Ruthven stated the code allows the message to change but only every five minutes. He stated the message must stay static for five minutes, no flashing, no animations. Board member Gotcher questioned staff regarding what is the magic with five minutes? Ron Ruthven replied not knowing the intention of the five minutes. He stated it has been in the ordinance for several years, at least five years. He stated he thought the reason for the five minutes was to not have any movement on the sign to cause a distraction for drivers. He stated businesses could change messages, they have to be static for five minutes. Chairman McNosky discussed history and rational regarding the sign code regulations. Mr. Driscoll stated he wants to be able to change the message more often with the use of animation. Discussion occurred between Board member Moore and Mr. Driscoll regarding the changing of the message. Board member Moore stated the Board has addressed the message changing with other variance requests. Chairman McNosky stated the Board does not want to re-write policy, the City Council needs to address re-writing the policy. Board member Gotcher stated there is not a hardship associated with this request. He stated this is an issue with the ordinance. Chairman McNosky stated the Council will have to address this issue. Board member Gotcher concurred. There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 7:50 p.m. Board member Moore moved to deny case A-08-012. Board member Munson seconded. The motion to deny carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 -Gotcher, Moore, Munson, McNosky, Mayhew, Alt. 2 Absent: 1 -Sams, Alt. 1 Abstain: 1 -Reynolds City of Colleyville Page 5 rnnrea on u, +i~wa Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final November 11, 2008 6. REPORTS AND COMMENTS None 7. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 7:56 p.m. I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall on Thursday, November 6, 2008 by 5:00 p.m. Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant The meeting minutes were approved on January 13, 2009. City of Colleyville Page 6 rr~nrea on v, ri~uva