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Minutes -Final
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Planning and Zoning Commission
City Hall
100 Main Street
Colleyville, Texas 76034
817. 503.1000
www.colleyville.com
Monday, November 10, 2008
6:15 PM
City Council Chambers
6:15 P.M.- PRE-COMMISSION WORKSHOP
EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM, THIRD FLOOR
LEGAL BRIEFING BY CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING PLANNING, ZONING,
PLATTING, AND LAND USE
REVIEW OF REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
7:00 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING
1. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of the City of Colleyville
was called to order by Chairman Byerly on November 10, 2008 at 7:00
p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Larry Knox, Dave Dudziak, Scott Redfearn,
Michael Clardy, David Phelps, Ron Rotthaus and Jeff Byerly
Staff Present: Ron Ruthven, Justin Bass and Jeremy Hutt
3.
INVOCATION
The invocation was given by Commissioner Dudziak.
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5.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Clardy moved to approve the October 13, 2008 meeting
minutes with the removal of the number 4 on the first page and replacing
it with the number 8 to reflect September 8, 2008. Commissioner
Dudziak seconded.
6.
CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
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7. PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS
7a. Approval of a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for a private horse
stable for domestic use on Lot 12, Block 1 of the Brighton Oaks Addition
located at 2912 Sherwood Lane, Case Z-08-022
Justin Bass presented the case and briefed the Commission.
Commissioner Byerly opened the public hearing at 7:03 p.m.
Gary Panno, the applicant, 6250 Pool Road, came forward to present
the case and brief the Commission regarding his request.
Phil Kelly, 2808 Sherwood Lane, spoke in opposition to the request and
stated this property should not be granted the special use permit just
because there are horses in the area. He stated the special use permit
should have restrictions applied to it.
There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at
7:07 p.m.
Commissioner Byerly questioned Mr. Panno regarding if there are horses
currently on this property or will there be before the house is built? Mr.
Panno replied there are not horses currently on the property. He stated
there may be horses on the property with the new owner. Justin Bass
stated the potential buyer would like to put her horses on the property
before the house is built. She stated they would build the stables before
the horses are there.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mr. Panno regarding why is the
request to make this permanent? Mr. Panno stated he would like to
have the special use permit move forward to the new owner. He stated
he would not want the new owner to have to come in after they have
purchased the property and have to reapply after he has gotten approval
for the horses.
Mr. Panno questioned staff regarding if the special use permit is good for
ten years? Justin Bass replied no. Mr. Panno replied he would like for
the special use permit to be permanent.
Commissioner Phelps stated a change of ownership gives the public an
opportunity to be able to come in for the city to correct issues that may
be there. Mr. Panno stated he wants to make sure the special use
permit is available to the new owner.
At this time, there is conversation between one of the Commissioners
with Mr. Panno, but the Commissioner did not have on his microphone,
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therefore, the conversation is not heard.
Commissioner Byerly questioned Mr. Panno regarding if more than one
home could be built on this property? Mr. Panno replied yes, but he
stated he did not want to build more than one home on this property, he
stated horses would be better than multiple homes.
Commissioner Dudziak stated he concurred with Commissioner Phelps
with the special use permit ending with the next subsequent owner. He
questioned staff regarding if there is a way to word the ordinance to
reflect that? Justin Bass replied there is no way for our office to monitor
the change of residences. He stated commercial properties have to
apply for a certificate of occupancy, however, residents do not.
Commissioner Byerly stated it would not be feasible to do that. He
stated Mr. Panno has a buyer interested in his property. He stated the
SUP should go with that property. He stated ownership should not be a
condition of that property.
Commissioner Redfearn stated his objection to the motion since a
rezoning to AG; RE or R40 would be more appropriate. In addition, he
objected on the basis that surrounding neighbors had a reasonable right
to expect that there would be no livestock on their streets or in their
backyards since this had been zoned R20.
Commissioner Phelps questioned staff regarding if there is a time limit
placed on the SUP, what would trigger the expiration of that SUP?
Justin Bass replied staff would keep the expiration on record and will
address the issue as it comes to expire. Staff will notify the property
owner to renew the SUP. He stated the city will enforce the ordinance.
Commissioner Phelps suggested there being a time limit on the SUP.
Commissioner Clardy questioned Mr. Panno regarding if there are
horses being boarded on an off site facility, as stated in the briefing? Mr.
Panno replied no, he stated he does not own a horse.
Commissioner Byerly replied staff has stated the potential buyer has
horses that they are wanting to put on the property.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned staff regarding if the special use
permit can be triggered with a certificate of occupancy? Justin Bass
replied certificate of occupancies are not issued for residential
properties. He stated it could be triggered at the building permit. Ron
Ruthven replied it would be triggered upon issuance of the building
permit.
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Commissioner Byerly moved to approve case Z-08-022 with the
conditions that no horses be boarded on the property until such time that
the stables are completed; and that the draft ordinance in section five,
after the period, to add "or this SUP shall expire to clarify that the
primary residence have a building permit issued within two years" and
then adding if all conditions are met within two years, this SUP shall
continue indefinitely unless revoked by City Council. Commissioner
Clardy seconded.
Commissioner Phelps stated for those conditions there is no expiration
triggered that would cause a renewal or extension of the SUP. He
questioned when would this come back, if those conditions are met?
Commissioner Byerly stated if those conditions are not met in two years,
then the SUP would expire and horses would not be allowed.
Commissioner Phelps stated this would allow the stables to be
constructed but the home would have to be constructed within those two
years or the SUP would expire. Commissioner Byerly concurred.
At this time a Commissioner is speaking, but not into the microphone.
Commissioner Byerly stated if this property were zoned R40, then the
SUP would not have to come forward. Commissioner Redfearn stated
he would be willing to rezone the property to R40. Commissioner Byerly
stated the R20 zoning would be better to have with the SUP for the
current property owner in case something happens with this transaction.
Commissioner Dudziak stated not having an issue with having to renew
the SUP. He stated it would be at trigger point for the residents at that
time to be able to decide if they want to keep horses on this lot, in case
the current owner has issues with maintaining the horses. He stated he
would have no issue with renewing the SUP at the change of ownership.
Commissioner Byerly restated the motion:
Commissioner Byerly moved to approve case Z-08-022 with the
conditions that no horses be boarded on the property until such time that
the stables are completed; and that the draft ordinance in section four,
numbers five and six, after the period, to add "or this SUP shall expire to
clarify that the primary residence have a building permit issued within two
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years and then adding if all conditions are met within two years, this
SUP shall continue indefinitely unless revoked by City Council.
Commissioner Clardy seconded.
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The motion failed by the following vote:
Aye: 3 -Clardy, Rotthaus, Byerly
Nay: 4 -Knox, Dudziak, Redfearn, Phelps
Commissioner Phelps stated being in agreement except for the
indefinate expiration. He stated the two year time limit is
acceptable. He stated the neighbors attitudes may change within
those two years. He stated like having the owners having to come
forward from time to time to renew the SUP.
Commissioner Byerly questioned Commissioner Phelps regarding
exactly what is he looking for? Commissioner Phelps stated the
language would change slightly that two years, with the certificate
of occupancy of the new owners. He stated there would be no way
to track it, therefore the two years would be acceptable.
Commissioner Byerly stated it would not be fair to the new
occupants, who have built a stable or barn, to place a two year time
frame on them to have to come in and renew the SUP and possibly
have it denied and then they are left with a barn that is not usable.
He stated the SUP should go with the property with a minimum of
that SUP being valid with that property owner.
Commissioner Phelps stated he would agree with that, however, he
stated staff stated they have no way to track that. He stated if the
property sells, there is no way to know when there is a new owner
taking occupancy.
Commissioner Dudziak stated he is not comfortable with the horses
being there on a lot that is unoccupied. He stated the SUP would
be better served if triggered at time of permitting going forward
from that point. He stated that would relieve Mr. Panno the burden
of having to transfer ownership of the SUP. He stated the SUP
starts when that person owns the property and then going forward
to the next owner. He stated there should be no horses until the
permit is issued.
City Attorney Kallas replied that would be akward, at best, he stated
the solution is that the Commission can deny this SUP and when
the new owner comes in, they can come in and ask for a SUP. He
stated the Commission would then have a lot better idea about what
is going to happen and who is going to be the owner. He stated
change of ownership is very tricky to track. He stated it is almost
unenforceable. He stated a time limit is a better machnism to make
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whoever owns it come in and get a new look at the situation. He
stated the situation that Commissioner Dudziak is making would be
difficult to enforce and subject to different interpretations.
Commissioner Dudziak stated if the SUP is issued, at the time of
the building permit, for that piece of property, for that particular
owner, how is that messy? Commissioner Byerly stated at this
point issuing a SUP to someone that doesn't own the property, yet.
He stated that is the issue. Commissioner Dudziak stated the SUP
is not being issued to any particular person, he stated the
Commission is issuing it to a piece of property when a permit is
issued on it.
City Attorney Kallas replied it goes to the particular piece of
property. He questioned Commissioner Dudziak if the SUP would
become active at the time of the building permit? Commissioner
Dudziak replied yes. City Attorney Kallas repeated for clarity, if the
building permit is not pulled within two years, the SUP expires or
never comes to life, therefore, Mr. Panno would not have the zoning
entitlement until the building permit is issued? Commissioner
Dudziak stated there would be two years to get the permit, within
that two year time period, the SUP would then be triggered. City
Attorney Kallas replied it would be condition number 5, under
Commissioner Byerly's motion, if the building permit were pulled
within the two years, the SUP would then be indefinate.
Commissioner Dudziak replied no, the Commission wants the SUP
to hold with that particular property owner. But, horses would not
be allowed on the property, or the SUP to start until the building is
permitted. He stated they want to build the stable when the SUP is
approved before the home is built. City Attorney Kallas stated the
Commission wants the SUP to become active once the primary
residence is permitted. Commissioner Dudziak concurred. City
Attorney Kallas stated the primary residence and the stable would
be built at the same time. Commissioner Dudziak stated that would
allow Mr. Panno to have horses on the property at the time the
permits were issued for the primary residence. City Attorney Kallas
stated that may work. He stated the SUP is granted but no horses
shall be allowed on the property until the building permit is pulled
for the primary residence and if it is not pulled within the two years,
the SUP would expire. Commissioner Dudziak concurred.
Commissioner Rotthaus stated and construction of the stables is
completed as well. City Attorney Kallas replied that was a condition
in the original motion or the motion could be amended to include
the permitting of the primary residence as well as the stable area.
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Commissioner Byerly questioned Commissioner Dudziak
regardidng how long would the SUP last? Commissioner Dudziak
stated the Commission wants some type of limit on the SUP,
whether it be a time element or with the next owner. He stated he
would be in favor of it stays in effect until the next owner.
Commissioner Phelps stated he would prefer that, however, it has
been explained that it would not be enforcealbe. He stated there
should be a time limit on the SUP to review. He stated he does not
like the indefinate.
Commissioner Byelry stated the motion might pass if the SUP is
limited to the next owner. Commissioner Dudziak concurred.
Commissioner Dudziak with the exception that the SUP would be
issued at time of the building permit and that the SUP would remain
in effect for the property owner at time of building permit. City
Attorney Kallas suggested that the SUP be issued tonight and the
horses not be allowed to be on the property until the building
permit. He stated the zoning would change tonight and to have
respective zoning change is akward. He stated it is more in the
normal course that the SUP would be granted tonight but no horses
shall be allowed on the property, until the primary residential permit
is issued.
Commissioner Dudziak stated the first goal is to limit the ability to
have the SUP in effect, for one owner or a time limit. He stated it
needs to be for the length of the owner.
Ron Ruthven suggested that a time limit be set. He stated staff
would not know when ownership for the property changes. He
stated staff would review the SUP if a time limit were to be set.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned if the city has a way to know
when a SUP would expire? Ron Ruthven replied yes, however, the
city does not know when there is a change in ownerhhip. He stated
those transactions are private. Commissioner Dudziak stated he
could see the difficulty in that.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned Commissioner Phelps regarding
if a ten year time limit would be acceptable? Commissioner Phelps
replied that would be an adequate time limit. He stated at some
point, with this being in a neighborhood, the city would need to
re-evalutate this.
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Commissioner Byerly stated the change of ownership would be a
better way to monitor the SUP. He stated it would not be fair to a
property owner for them to have to come back in, after having had
horses for say, five years, and renew the SUP and have it possibly
taken away. Commissioner Dudziak concurred.
Commissioner Byerly states that the Commission would approve
with the conditions that no horses be boarded on the property until
such time that the stables are completed; no horses would be
allowed until a building permit is issued for the residence and that
the building permit would have to be issued within two years or this
will expire; and that the SUP would expire with the second change
in ownership. Commissioner Dudziak stated that being the motion.
City Attorney Kallas stated the SUP would be issued to Mr. Panno
and a subsequent owner, there after, any change in ownership, this
SUP shall expire on a change in ownership. Commissioner Phelps
concurred. He stated staff would have to have some way to
monitor the trigger. He stated something is being approved that is
not enforceable. Commissioner Byerly seconded.
Mr. Panno stated the citizens of that neighborhood will let the city
know if there is an issue with the horses and the city can, at that
time, look into those issues. He stated it would take care of itself
naturally.
Commissioner Redfearn questioned Mr. Panno if there is any
livestock on this property? Mr. Panno replied no. Commissioner
Refearn questioned Mr. Panno regarding if there is fencing around
the property? Mr. Panno replied there is fencing, but not sure that it
would hold horses. He stated the new property owner would have
to address the fencing.
There is discussion occuring with Commissioner Redfearn and Mr.
Panno, however, Commission Redfearn is not speaking into the
microphone to be heard.
Ron Ruthven stated according to the Land Development Code,
livestock shall be adequatley cared for with regards to water and
food. He stated the fencing would have to be addressed as well.
He stated the horses would be kept behind the house.
Commissioner Byerly summarized:
Motion by Commissioner Dudziak to approve with the conditions
that no horses would be allowed on the property until the stables
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are built; that no horses be allowed until a building permit is issued
for the residence; that the building permit be issued within two
years or this SUP will expire; and that this SUP will expire with the
second change in ownership. Seconded by Commissioner Byerly.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 -Knox, Dudziak, Clardy, Phelps, Rotthaus, Byerly
Nay: 1 - Redfearn
7b, Approval of a request for a zoning change from CN-Neighborhood
Commercial to PUDC-Planned Unit Development Commercial on Lot 1,
Block 1 of the Metrovest Addition located at 6100 Colleyville Boulevard,
Case Z-08-023
Justin Bass presented the case and briefed the Commission.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding what is the history on
this property? Ron Ruthven replied nothing other than the rezoning
request that came before the Commission for the subject property, two
years ago, the property to the south was rezoned in 1994.
Commissioner Byerly opened the public hearing at 7:49 p.m.
Kim Martin and Shannon Bravomalo, the applicants, came forward to
present the case and brief the Commission.
Commissioner Clardy questioned the applicant's regarding how many
units are in the CN zoning district? Ms. Martin stated there is
approximately 34,000 square feet total. She stated 16,000 square feet is
zoned CN. She stated the uses they are proposing are retail uses. Ms.
Bravomalo stated the 6000 Colleyville Boulevard is limited on the
visibility and without the visibility, she stated they are limited with the
uses that want to go there.
Commissioner Clardy stated there are two tenants in the space. Ms.
Bravomalo stated there are two tenants currently open with permits that
will be coming in that will be denied unless the zoning is put in place.
She stated they have lots of movement with tenants, it will take time for
construction of shell space.
Ernest Hedgcoth, 6012 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in
opposition to the rezoning request. He stated he lives directly behind
this property. He stated having issues with traffic and the potential uses
in the CC1 zoning district.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mr. Hedgcoth regarding if the clothing
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retail uses are of concern to him? He stated those are not objectionable
.uses, the 24 hour uses such as restaurants, alcohol, telemarketers
would not be uses he would appreciate.
Steve Griffith, 6008 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in opposition to
the rezoning request. He stated the property owner knew what the
property was zoned when he built the building.
Phyllis Hedgcoth, 6012 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in
opposition to the rezoning request.
Carol Neff, 6104 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in opposition to
the rezoning request.
Janis Sims, 6009 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in opposition to
the rezoning request.
Sharon Mullen, 5912 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in opposition
to the rezoning request.
Frank Gossett, 1400 Hardage Lane, came forward and spoke in
opposition to the rezoning request.
Christopher Pullen, 6013 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in
opposition to the rezoning request.
Chantal Griffith, 6008 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in opposition
to the rezoning request. She stated the little shops would be fine, but
not some of the other CC1 uses.
Debbie Condon, 6100 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in opposition
to the rezoning request.
Tracy Sligar, 6004 Ponderosa, came forward and spoke in opposition to
the rezoning request. He stated there are too many uses in the CC1
zoning district that are not acceptable adjacent to this neighborhood.
There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at
8:17 p.m.
Ms. Martin stated understanding the concerns of the neighbors. She
stated the restaurant uses that they would be considering would be
sandwich shops, not a free standing, typical restaurant. She stated they
want to fill the center with high end uses. She stated the leases would
be for about 5-10 years.
Ms. Bravomalo concurred with Ms. Martin and stated they are available
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to answer questions of the neighbors and are willing to keep the property
maintained.
Ms. Martin stated the fence is on the property line of their property and
that they are maintaining the space between the fences.
Commissioner Clardy questioned Ms. Martin if they have considered a
special use permit for these uses? Ms. Martin stated they have
considered it, but with several leases signed, the hearing process slows
the leasing process down by 30 days. She stated it is more difficult to do
their job. She stated they are wanting to lease to high end, quality
clients.
Commissioner Byerly suggested a Planned Unit Development
Commercial-PUDC zoning district may be more appropriate for this
property. He stated the uses can be more limited unlike a straight
zoning like CC1. Ms. Martin stated she did not think the property owner
would have an issue with that. She stated they are not wanting all of
those uses in the CC1 zoning district.
Ms. Bravomalo stated the use that they wanted in the beginning was a
yoga center, which is considered a fitness center. She stated they would
not have considered that to be a fitness center, 24 Hour Fitness is what
comes to mind when thinking of a fitness center. She stated the city just
did not think about all of the uses when putting together this uses table.
She stated they do have the city's best interests in mind, as well as their
best interest. She stated long term is much better for everyone.
Commissioner Byerly stated with a PUDC, the uses that would be
requested are the only ones that would be allowed by that particular
ordinance. He stated the uses can be from CN and CC1. He stated the
objectionable ones could be listed as not permissible. He stated once
the PUDC was done, the uses in the ordinance would be allowed by
right.
City Attorney Kallas stated the applicant would have to come back and
request that particular zoning district. He stated it would not be
something they could do tonight. Ms. Martin stated she would like to
pass on that. She would rather move forward since they have leases
pending the zoning.
Ms. Bravomalo stated the particular uses they are requesting would not
be open 24 hours or receiving deliveries in the middle of the night.
Commissioner Dudziak stated the Commission does support
development in the city. He stated the residents are correct, and with a
straight zoning, all uses would be allowed. He concurred with
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Commissioner Byerly regarding coming forward with a PUD zoning.
Commissioner Dudziak moved to deny case Z-08-023. Commissioner
Knox seconded.
Commissioner Phelps questioned staff regarding if the opposition
received met the super majority rule? Justin Bass replied yes. Ron
Ruthven replied staff has not, as of yet, calculated the super majority
issue. He stated staff will calculate as it moves forward to city council.
Commissioner Phelps concurred with Commissioner Byerly with regards
to a PUDC zoning district for this property.
The motion to deny carried by the following vote:
Aye: 7 -Knox, Dudziak, Redfearn, Clardy, Phelps, Rotthaus, Byerly
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STAFF COMMENTS, REPORTS AND DISCUSSION ITEMS
None
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS AND REPORTS
None
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:36 p.m.
I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall
on Thursday, November 6, 2008 by 5:00 p.m.
Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant
The meeting minutes were approved on December 8, 2008.
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