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PUBLIC NOTICE
COMMUTER RAIL COMMITTEE
Monday, August 11, 2008 7:00 P.M.
Colleyville Center, 5301 Riverwalk Drive
The agenda for this meeting will be as follows:
1. Call to order
2. Approval of minutes:
General committee -July 28, 2008
Finance subcommittee -August 5, 2008
Station Impact subcommittee -July 14, July 22, and August 6, 2008
Safety and Security subcommittee -July 14, July 15, 2008
3. Review and discuss the City Council presentation for August 19 Pre Council
meeting
a. Discuss any changes or additions
b. Clarify key points
c. Agree on content
4. Discuss and review additional research items from subcommittees
5. Discuss narratives on the website
6. Adjournment
1 certify that this notice was posted on the City Hall Bulletin Board on Thursday, August 7, 2008, by 6:00 pm.
Kelly Cooper
Assistant City Manager
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COMMUTER RAIL COMMITTEE Minutes - .luly 28, 2008
1. Call to order:
Mr. John Gooding, Chair called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.
Present: John Gooding, Urmesh Shah, Linda Baker, Fred Mills, Clif Davis,
Paul Vigiletti, James Day, David Grimes, Keath Hance, Roger Nelson, Kristen
O'Regan
Absent: Michael Muhm, John Paul Burnett, Rich Hendler, John Leeper,
Joyce Hammill, Bartley Butler,
Staff: Kelly Cooper
2. Approval of minutes: July 14, 2008
Fred Mills made a motion to approve the minutes for July 14, 2008. James
Day seconded the motion. Motion approved.
3. Review the subcommittee narratives
John Gooding read the finance subcommittee narrative and answered
questions. Discussion occurred on the 3/8 cent estimate, the transportation
feeder system and discussion on how to pay, affordability, and funding of a
station.
Cliff Davis mentioned that the city should hire someone to do an economic
development study for the area in a '/2 mile radius of the station; compare
station to no station. There is a similar ED Study at asarail.org.
David Grimes read the traffic subcommittee narrative and answered
questions. The narrative is categorized in focus areas with multiple inputs.
Discussion occurred regarding access to John McCain is a bike path only.
Roger Nelson read the Safety and security subcommittee narrative and
answered questions. Discussion occurred regarding speed which will depend
on the final environmental impact study. Discussion occurred regarding train
incidents and the need to be prepared for accidents that would include train
and car, train and passengers (derailment) and train and trespasser.
Additional discussion occurred regarding Quad Gates and quiet zones and if
additional sound mitigation would be needed. Initial study shows no
mitigation for sound, outside of quiet zones is necessary. Quiet zones are a
city decision.
Fred Mills read the station impact subcommittee narrative. Basically
answered each question individually. They had 94 total items and have
finished answers to all items through 39. Discussion occurred regarding
parking and ability to charge, cost-per-rider, tree mitigation and station
concept plan.
Urmesh Shah read the public information subcommittee narrative. Discussion
occurred to eliminate portions of the narrative at this time.
4. Discuss how to disseminate narrative information including use of a
newspaper column
The committee took time to brainstorm and discuss the format of the
narratives. How to release to public. The committee determined at this time
that using a media outlet such as a newspaper was not the best idea. The
committee agreed to place on the website and would rely on Mona Gandy to
assist with that effort. The committee determined to leave each narrative in
its original format but that each subcommittee would make the changes
mentioned tonight and email to Kelly Cooper for the website. Linda Baker
said the narratives should be provided to the City Council before being placed
on the website.
Determined the Courier column was premature. Urmesh Shah said he would
notify the courier that the information was on the website.
5. Discuss presentation for City Council
a. Points to address
b. What key points for immediate consideration should be included from
each subcommittee
John Gooding opened the discussion regarding the presentation. Asked
subcommittee to get items for presentation to him in the next five days, everyone
was in agreement. Next meeting August 11 at 7:00 p.m.
6. Citizen Comments
Beverly Sonnebom, 1403 Caldwell Creek, spoke in opposition to the
Commuter rail.
John Owsen, 6800 Shalimar, spoke in opposition to commuter rail.
David Fink, 6400 Ponderosa Lane, spoke in opposition to commuter rail and
requested the committee clarify with a disclaimer that these questions are not
part of the DEIS
7. Adjournment
There being no further business to discuss, John Gooding made a motion
to adjourn. Roger Nelson seconded the motion. The motion was
approved and the meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Minutes taken and prepared by Kelly Cooper.
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Finance Subcommittee Minutes -Tuesday, August 5, 2008
1:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order : Chairman John Gooding called the meeting to order at 1:04 p.m.
Present: John Gooding and Michael Muhm
Staff: Terry Leake, Finance Director and Kelly Cooper, Assistant City Manager
2. Discuss funding options
John opened the discussion by asking Terry to review her responses to several questions that
John had asked (via email, attached). Terry reviewed the options beginning with the TIF and
the 5 million allocated to the SH26 project. Terry proceeded to explain how the TIF works. In
2019 the TIF collapses and in 2020 $711,621 is additional revenue available in the General
Fund.
Between Now and 10 years available cash is not an option, debt financing is not an option nor
is it an option to increase sales tax (Colleyville is at the max allowed by law). It is not possible
to earn interest on the 5 million that is part of the TIF.
It is possible to earn interest on property that may be developed commercially or as residential
at this location. Consideration could also be given to a property tax increase of 3%, which
would raise approximately 300,000 or approximately $16.00 per average household per year
by Michael Muhm's calculation.
Terry also stated that available funds from expiring debt were not an option as this will finance
the two fire engines and staffing.
Michael Muhm asked if Grapevine is making payments now or in the future and indicated an
interest in meeting with them when the meeting time is determined.
John Gooding asked what the projected sales tax revenue would be for 2012? Terry would
research and reply tomorrow.
3. Review and discuss Finance subcommittee narrative
Due to length of the meeting this item will be discussed at a later date
4. Adjournment: John Gooding adjourned the meeting at 2:20 p.m.
Minutes taken and prepared by Kelly Cooper, Assistant City Manager
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Station Impact Subcommittee Minutes -Monday, July 14, 2008
7:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:05
Present: Keath Hance and John Paul Burnett
Absent: Fred Mills, Paul Vigiletti and Clif Davis
Staff Present: Kelly Cooper
2. Approval of minutes: Minutes were not approved, waiting on full committee
3. Discuss, formulate responses and determine research assignments for the
items from the public input meetings
Keath and John Paul reviewed the list of questions dividing the questions into
subcategories of safety, location and environment. Many of the questions
listed can not be answered until the Environmental Impact study is released.
They did discuss drainage along the creek and considered how vibration from
the trains would affect gas wells that might be drilled on neighboring property.
It was determined that they would meet at a later date with the full committee
to determine responses to the questions.
4. Adjournment at 6:45 p.m.
Minutes taken and prepared by Kelly Cooper, Assistant City Manager
Kelly Cooper
From: Fred Mills [fred-mariemills@tx.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:02 PM
To: Kelly Cooper
Subject: Kelly -for your distribution to the Station Impact Subcommittee (Include Ron on the
distribution)
Attachments: Public Meetings.Stationlmpact Comm1 entsdoc.doc; ATT491854.txt
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Colleyville Commuter Rail Committee
Station Impact Subcommittee Minutes for July 22, 2008
Meeting called to order at 7:08 PM
Members present: John Paul Burnett, Keath Hance, Fred Mills City Representative
Ruthven
Absent Members: Clif Davis, Paul Vigiletti
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1. The minutes were approved for the 6/2/08 and the 6/28/08 Station Impact Subcommittee
meeting.
John Paul motioned for approval and Keath Hance seconded the motion.
2. The subcommittee discussed the 4 items under review because of Chesapeake's purchase
of 2 of the 3 tracts at the proposed Train Station location.
It appears that the answers provided via emails from the City (Ron
Ruthven) and the T (Paulette Vander) adequately address the committee's concerns. At this
time, the only remaining issue still outstanding is how many additional parking spaces
could be provided beyond the initial 304 spaces.
3. The subcommittee worked on providing responses to the Station
Impact Items list. About 40~ of the total task was accomplished.
See updated attached Items List.
4. The meeting was adjourned at 9:07 PM
Submitted by
Fred Mills
Subcommittee Chairman
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Station Impact Subcommittee Minutes -August 6, 2008
1. Call to Order
Fred Mills, Chair called the meeting to order at 7:07p.m.
Present: Fred Mills, Keath Hance, John Paul Burnett, Paul Vigiletti and Clif
Davis
Absent:
Staff: Kelly Cooper
2. Review and discuss Station Impact Subcommittee narrative and continue
working on responses to public meeting questions
Fred Mills requested each member to read the section they completed for
committee review.
John Paul Burnett reviewed questions 38 - 47 with the committee.
Clif Davis reviewed questions 48 - 57 with the committee.
Fred Mills reviewed questions 58 - 67 with the committee.
Keath Hance reviewed questions 68 - 77 with the committee.
Paul Vigiletti reviewed questions 78 - 88 with the committee.
3. Adjournment
There being no further business to discuss; a motion was made and
seconded to adjourn the meeting. The motion was approved and the
meeting adjourned at 8:22 p.m.
Minutes taken and prepared by Kelly Cooper.
COMMUTER RAIL COMMITTEE
Safety and Security Subcommittee
Minutes for July 14, 2008, Subcommittee Meeting
Meeting called to order at approximately 07:05 pm
Committee members present: John Leeper and Roger Nelson
Staff present: Lt. Doug Cooper, Colleyville Police Department
The minutes of the June 2, 2008, Subcommittee meeting were approved.
Issues discussed:
1) Workplan
2) Additional Action
3) Answers to questions and comments from public meetings
The Subcommittee meeting was adjourned at approximately 07:50 pm.
Submitted by John Leeper
COMMUTER RAIL COMMITTEE
Safety and Security Subcommittee
Minutes for July 15, 2008, Subcommittee Meeting
Meeting called to order at approximately 01:00 pm
Committee members present: John Gooding, Roger Nelson, and John Leeper
Others present: Bob Wichhart, General Manager, Fort Worth & Western Railroad
The minutes of the June 14, 2008, Subcommittee meeting were approved.
A Roadway Worker Protection job safety briefing was conducted.
A track authority job safety briefing was conducted.
Participants conducted an on-track inspection trip within the city limits of Colleyville.
Video and still photos were taken at intervals along the inspection route.
The Subcommittee meeting was adjourned at approximately 02:30 pm.
Submitted by John Leeper
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Kelly Cooper
From: Ron Ruthven
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:02 PM
To: Fred Mills
Cc: Kelly Cooper
Subject: RE: Station Impact Response Item
Hello Fred,
The following are some attempted answers to your questions:
(1) The employment density for Colleyville is approximately 455 persons employed in the City per square mile or -
0.71 persons employed in the City per acre. Total employment is approximately 6,000 persons.
By extreme comparison, Irving has an employment density of 3,181 persons employed per square mile or 5.0
persons employed per acre. Total employment is estimated at 215,036 persons.
(2) I am still researching some numbers on quad gates (or quiet zones) but the cost estimates I came up with
range from $300,000 per crossing to $1,000,000 per crossing. I will give you more specific information before
the meeting on Wednesday.
Ron Ruthven, AICP, Development Coordinator
City of Colleyville
100 Main Street
Colleyville, TX 76034
(817)503-1052
fax(817)503-1059
www.colleyville. com_
From: Fred Mills [mailto:fred-mariemills@tx.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:50 PM
To: Ron Ruthven
Subject: Station Impact Response Item
Hi Ron,
My subcommittee is still working on getting answers for some of our items. Can you provide information on
the following items:
1. Colleyville Employee /employer density
Response:
2. What is the cost of quad gates vs. regular gates? S
Response:
Thanks for any information that you can provide.
Fred Mills
Station Impact Subcommittee Chair
8/5/2008
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Citizen Centric Solutions -Printable Issue
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Issue ID: 5951 Currently Assigned To: Kelly Cooper
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Address: 3505 CI CLIFFWOOD DR
City: Colleyville State: TEXAS Zip: 76034
Comments
Paying for a Commuter rail station is a total waste of any public money. Very few Colleyville residents, maybe 1 percent,
might use it, but it will require either an increase in the sales tax (already at the state mandated maximum) or appropriation
from the city, i.e. public tax money.
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Tom Anderson 3505 Cliffwood Drive Colleyville TX 76034 (817) 498-2820
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Putting in a rail station at John McCain and 26 is a very bad idea. If Colleyville decides to put in a rail station at the John
McCain and 26 location, I (along with lots of my neighbors) will put our houses up for sale spring pf 2009 and move out of
Colleyville. The notion that Colleyville needs a rail station at the John McCain location is just plain wrong - it will be a waste
of tax dollars as it is likely to be mostly used by non-Colleyville residents. It will certainly produce big noise, degrade quality
of life, and cause major traffic problems at that location. If the train station cannot be built at the City Hall/Library area, then
it should not be built at all in Colleyville. Even with no train station, Colleyville will have huge costs just dealing with noise
abatement, safety standards, and losing residents, and declining property values from the commuter rail trisecting our town
(crossing 3 highly critical and traffic intersections) multiple times a day. But building a unneeded and inappropriately located
rail station at John McCain and 26 will be a financial and social disaster for Colleyville. Please vote against the John
McCain and 26 train station. Regards, Gil Perexempel
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Gil Perexempel 103 Colonial Square Colleyville TX 76034 (817) 542-3936 ~~
8/6/2008
Kelly Cooper
From: Fred Mills [fred-mariemills@tx.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:27 PM
To: John Gooding
Cc: Kelly Cooper; Fred Mills
Subject: Comments from the THE station visit
Hi John,
Here are some items from our on-site inspection.
The subcommittee members visited the CentrePort THE Station on 6/28/08.
The committee observed the station appearance which was excellent and exceptionally clean.
The landscaping looked very good and watering was evident. The parking lot was well
maintained. Multiple security cameras were mounted high under the canopy overhang. The
committee observed an inbound train traveling to Ft Worth. The brakes did not squeak upon
arrival. The engine was exceptionally quiet, less than the DART bus which arrived shortly
after. There was no vibration or odor noted with the train arrival and departure.
On Aug 8, 2008, at 8:11 PM, John Gooding wrote:
> Fred - can you give me 3 or 4 sentences that summarizes your THE
> Centre Port trip. An impression, observation, etc. of yours or
> something one of your committee members mentioned - just a tidbit I
> can use when referring to your trip there.
> Thanks
> John
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Station Impact Subcommittee
E= Environment D= Demographics L= Location S =Safety
1. What other destinations are being considered? L
Response: No other destination sites are being considered because land is not
available.
2. Is John McCain the only choice L
Response:Yes
3. Can we charge for parking? L
Response: No, the T does not charge for parking.
4. Number of parking spaces, is there enough? Are there lights at night? L
Response: For initial startup 304 spaces appears to be adequate.
Lights will be provided for nighttime safety.
5. Bike racks L
Response: Yes bike racks will be provided
6. The proposed station at the Northeast corner of Colleyville does not conveniently
support the majority of Colleyville residents. A few more miles to Grapevine is
immaterial. L
Response: There are 5976 people living within one mile of the John McCain site.
7. The John McCain station would be too close to the Grapevine station.
Response: The Grapevine station is considered a main street station with limited or
no park and ride, and it's primarily a walk up stop. The Colleyville station will be a
community station with park and ride. These stations will serve different needs.
8. Parking will go into neighborhoods around the station. L
Response: The City of Colleyville could regulate this and the neighborhood could
petition the city to gate or restrict parkin
9. Benefit: Have passes as a citizen of that city to have free parking. L
Response : The T provides free parking for all station users.
10. Will there be overnight parking? Some would like this feature. This is a great idea.
L
Response: The T does not allow overnight parking at their stations.
Station Impact Subcommittee
E= Environment D= Demographics L= Location S =Safety
11. Can there be compensation to the City of Colleyville for other towns using Colleyville
parking at the station? Colleyville residents: free/lesser rate than non-Colleyville
citizens Non-Colleyville residents pay L
Response: The T allows any rail transit user to utilize available station parking. The City
of Colleyville and its residents would not receive compensation nor discounted rates.
12. Can we increase parking if we go up? L
Response: Certainly ,building multi level parking would increase parking spaces.
13. Must have quad gates and quiet zone regardless if the station is built or not. S
Response: The City of Colleyville has applied for government funds to support quad
gates, matching funds of $300,000 will be required from the city.
14.Overkill on the number of stations. L
Response: There are 10 planned stations in Ft Worth, 1 in Haltom City, and 4 potential
stations between Haltom City and Grapevine.
15. Convenient to use? Where does it go? Dallas? L
Response: Besides going to Ft. Worth, this commuter rail will connect at the DFW
airport to the DART rail system.
16. Schematic drawing at station exist? L
Response: The T has made generic station schematic's available. The specific
Colleyville Schematic is not currently available
17. Entertain sound barrier request -who pays? E
Response: Based on the EIS, the City of Colleyville, would have to determine where
quiet zones would be required and pay for any barriers.
18. Percentage of Colleyville residents who would use this? D
Response: unknown at this time based on changing environment
19. What efforts will be made for noise mitigation? E
Response: Quad gates need to be installed, and the City of Colleyville would need to
establish agreements for quiet zones. Additionally, the EIS should identify other areas that
may need noise mitigation
Station Impact Subcommittee
E= Environment D= Demographics L= Location S =Safety
20. Can someone look into other cities that have adopted a station and see what the
impact was to the crime rate, before and after? D
Response: The Safety Committee has addressed this question in their narrative.
21.A neighborhood is not the place for a station. It needs to be near commerce, such
as the Grapevine station, which is already in operation. L
Response: The T's station planning guide defines a Neighborhood Station as a needed
and recognized Station type.
22. We are already backed up on John McCain. L
Response: The city of Colleyville is responsible for traffic studies and mitigating current
traffic issues.
23. Are you going to widen the street? Every 20 minutes, we'll be waiting for a train to
pass. L
Response: The city of Colleyville is responsible for traffic studies and mitigating current
traffic issues.
24. Wouldn't it make more sense to put this near something (The Village) Or have a
master plan, making this a destination site like Mockingbird Station. L
Response: The Village unfortunately is too far from the railroad to be considered. The
John McCain site has the potential to be a transit oriented development but would require
zoning changes and high density residential development.
25. Double-track at all stations -too little room (space). Where do the trees go? E
Response: There is enough room; the railroad right of way is 100 feet. The T
determines if trees and vegetation along the right of way need to be trimmed or eliminated.
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Station Impact Subcommittee
E= Environment D= Demographics L= Location S =Safety
26. What are the projected rider ticket costs to go to ? D
Response: The current ticket costs are listed below:
FARE TYPE ONE_W
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PASS" MONTHLY
PASS
LOCAL/ 1 ZONE $1.50 $3.00 $50.00
PREMIUM/ 2 ZONES $2.50 $5.00 $80.00
REDUCED/ 2 ZONES included $0.75 $1.50 $25.00
* To qualify for reduced fare, rider must be:
Child between the ages of 5-14 (under 5 free up to 4 children accompanied by an adult)
Senior citizen (65+) or disabled rider (DART/theT photo ID or Medicare card required)
Middle or high school student under 19 years of age (Valid Student Photo ID
required)
27.As of now, we have 300 cars parking. What is the long-range parking plan? What
will it cost? L
Response: There is not currently a long range parking plan. This would only be
developed if the Colleyville station became a reality.
28. If your house is on tracks, can trees be planted to prevent noise? E
Response: That will be determine by the Colleyville City Council and the the T at a later
date
29. Why not put the station close to Southlake? L
Response: This location in Colleyville is as close as it can get to Southlake.
30. Will the city care for permanent restrictions on undesirable establishments around
the 450+ capacity parking area, i.e. taverns? D
Response: This will be reviewed by the city council through the P & Z process
31. How close will the parking lot be to the adjoining houses? Were sound barriers
considered? E
Response: The closest home to the planned station site is 450 feet. The parking will be
on the Highway 26 side of the tracks. Sound barriers will be addressed in the EIS
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32. Need to consider a multilevel encapsulated station for noise control, a commerce
zone, parking garage (double-rail). L
Response: That option would have to be reviewed by the City Council and the T.
33. If we don't do the station now, can we do it at a later date? L
Response: Yes the City of Colleyville will be able to discuss with the T to join the
program at a later date. The T has stated that it will be more expensive if Colleyville waits.
34. Grapevine parking. L
Response: There will be some parking in Grapevine, but how much is not know yet.
The Grapevine Station is considered a "Main Street Station" with limited parking.
35. Usage at station. D
Response: The station will be used by patrons of the commuter rail service, and will
provide for parking of the patrons and future bus service. Rider ship projection at the
Colleyville Station is 900 daily boarding & Alighting by 2030.
36. View at the station. E
Response: The station will have a ground level concrete platform, at the level of the
tracks, to provide for passengers to get on and off the trains. Their will be shade canopies
at intervals along the platform with seating and ticket machines. The station is anticipated
to look similar to the stations along the Trinity Railway Express, the commuter rail service
operated by the Fort Worth T and DART between Dallas and Fort Worth.
37. Advantage to having Quad gates. S
Response: Quad gates provide fora safer vehicular crossing of the tracks at
intersections because they are configured to make it more difficult for a vehicle to go
around the gates when they are down for a passing train.
38. Bike/walking path. L
Response: As we understand, the conceptual plan for the Colleyville station provides
for a bicycle and pedestrian path.
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39. Where will the double-track be placed -how long will it be? L
Response: Double tracks will occur at the stations, and at other locations along the
commuter rail line (to be determined) to provide for trains to pass that are going in opposite
directions. Typically, these double track locations are several hundred feet long.
40. Is there any way to reconsider rail location/route? L
Response: The `T' has made this decision as a result of their studies of alternative
alignments.
41. Who did the environmental impact study? E
Response: The Fort Worth `T' is conducting the environmental study. URS Corporation
is their consultant that is preparing the study.
42. How do we get the results of the environmental impact study? E
Response: As we understand, the Draft Environmental Impact Study will be released in
August, 2008, for review and comment by the public. There will be a copy in the Colleyville
Library, and in the city's Secretary's office. In addition, there will be a link on the T's
website.
43. Community household density D
Response: There are 5967 residents within 1 mile of the proposed John McCain station
and 2001 total housing starts within 1 mile. Within'/ mile there are 101 homes.
The 2007 Colleyville population was 23,261.
44. Employee /employer density D
Response: The employment density for Colleyville is approximately 455 persons
employed in the City per square mile or 0.71 persons employed in the City per
acre. Total employment is approximately 6,000 persons.
45. How to mitigate risks/train schedule/noise/traffic, etc E
Response: The EIS will address these questions. The Commuter Rail Committee will
review the EIS report and make general recommendations for city council consideration.
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46. Why is Caldwell Creek Drive corridor not included in the environmental impact
study?E
Response: This project involves completing an environmental review called an
Environmental Impact Statement (EIS). An EIS is the report of a study required by the
National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) whenever major new transportation projects are
proposed. An environmental study also may be required by the federal government for
major projects that use federal funds. Basic engineering is performed at this time to allow
more complete environmental analysis of the corridor. All impacted areas are included in
The EIS.
Neighborhood Impacts
The Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) will document the anticipated impacts the
proposed Southwest-to-Northeast Rail Corridor project may have on all nearby natural,
cultural, and social environments. Impacts that affect the following conditions will be
investigated:
Parklands
Visual/Aesthetic
Social/Economic
Cultural, Historical, Palentological
Soils
Land Use
Air Quality
Water Quality
Floodplains/Hydrology
Biological/Theatened and Endangered species
Wetlands
Agriculture/Farmland
Energy
Hazardous Materials
Utilities
Traffic
Transit/Transportation
Safety/Security
Rights-Of-Way/Property
Cumulative Effects
Community Facilities
Environmental Justice
Construction
Noise/vibration
47. Has the property up by the tank farm on State Route 26 across from Mustang Drive
been considered for a commuter rail station? This is Grapevine city limits. L
Response: This geographical site is beyond the project scope of the Colleyville
Commuter Rail Committee .
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48. Does Colleyville need to have a station before The T will install quad gates at the
Colleyville crossings? What is the cost of quad gates vs. regular gates? S
Response: No, a station is not required before quad gates can be installed
at the 3 Colleyville crossings. The city of Colleyville has already applied for government
funding for quad gates. Colleyville's assessment would be approx. $300,000. Ron
Ruthven is researching the difference in costs.
49. What mitigation can be provided to provide a better noise barrier between the trail
and the railroad tracks? (Everywhere that is applicable.) Is the city concerned
about this issue? E
Response: The EIS will address necessary noise mitigation by geographical site. City
Council may consider action to commit city funds to noise mitigation.
50. What is the pro of the station -small no. of riders? L
Response: The Colleyville Station would be part of a regional rail system which will
reduce highway traffic, improve emissions, and offer efficient alternative transportation for
thousands of DFW residents.
51. Where is P& Z Committee in this process? Why did they let houses be built near
station site if they were aware of this project? D
Response: The proposed commuter rail station at John McCain and SH 26 is simply a
possibility at this point in time. There has been no official commitment with regard to approval
by the "T", and with regard to funding and construction.
Additionally, the location of a commuter rail station on this site would require the approval of a
Special Use Permit by the City Council - in which case a public hearing would be held.
All homes located within close proximity to the rail station were built in 2003. The addition of a
potential rail station of the City of Colleyville located at John McCain and SH 26 was not
proposed by "The T" until early this year. Therefore, when these homes were built in 2003,
there was no station proposed for the site at John McCain & SH 26.
Any future approval of a rail station on this site would undoubtedly take into account the
potential impact upon neighborhoods that would be close to the station.
52. What happens to drainage along creek? E
Response: Drainage, engineering and tree removal/landscaping plans would be required to be
submitted prior to construction of the station. To date, no detailed construction plans have
been received. The plans would have to meet all City codes unless a waiver to these
requirements was granted by the City Council as part of the approval of a Special Use Permit.
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53. How many trees will we lose if this station is developed? E
Response:
Referred to Ron Ruthven.
54. Can the train be a light rail train (LRT)? Electric power -eliminate much noise and
pollution? E
Response: No the T will not have electric light rail trains
55. Where are other stations slated to be built? L
Response: Based on the current plan, North Richland Hills and Grapevine will be the
closet stations.
56. Why not put the station at Precinct Line and Glade in place of the Tarrant County
Road Repair Shop? L
Response This geographical site is beyond the project scope of the Colleyville
Commuter Rail Committee .
57. What kind of track improvements? S
Response: The tracks will be improved to the specs of commuter rail.
58. What is the pollution output of a diesel locomotive in car emissions? How many cars
does one locomotive equal? E
Response: Net result of the pollution output from the diesel locomotive is lower than any
pollution coming from the output of the cars. A yard stick would be to estimate how many
rider-ships would be on the train and that's how many cars would be eliminated from the
road.
59. Once the T is here, how do we stop it from imposing its will on the city, like in North
Richland Hills? City wants to develop and T wants parking. E
Response: North Richland Hills has no opposition to the two stations they approved for
their city. It was their choice to have the stations as they can see a major benefit to the
economic development of their city. The T has not and will not impose their will on NRH.
nor the City of Colleyville. The city will be fully engaged in the project with a joint committed
partnership with the T.
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60. Why does it cost $10 million for a parking lot? D
Response: The $10M is the approximate cost of the entire station. There is a cost
associated with land for parking. Then you have the lighting, Ticket Machines, Canapes,
Station platform Etc.
61. How can houses within 200 feet not be impacted? E
Response: First there is a 100 feet easement around the track. The houses that are
200 feet away could be affected by the noise, and the passenger diesel train, however, the
homes that are within 200 feet fall into the noise mitigation. The mitigation areas will be
outlined in the DEIS document. According to the T, any area flagged on the map as a
mitigation area will be taken into special consideration..
62. Who will be financially responsible for the crossing gates at all the present streets that
cross the railroad tracks? S
Response: Referred to Ron Ruthven.
63. Tracks? Elevated crossings? S
Response: There will be no elevated crossings. Most of the tracks will be single track.
Only where necessary there will be double tracks such as at every station.
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RESPONSE PENDING EIS RELEASE
1. Pollution -Environmental impact E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
2 .Impact on pollution -station vs. no station E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
3.. Sound impact of braking and train starting noise also from blowing horn. E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
4. 450 round trips daily sounds like a ridiculous proposition. D
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
5. Noise, every 20 minutes. E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
6. Lights -pollution at night. E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
7.Environmental impact studies. E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
8. Environmental study on the effect on wildlife in the area. The train will wipe out
many coyotes, birds, opossum, and raccoons in our backyard. E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
9. The T said in May that they hadn't done an EIS on 26/McCain. What are the
findings now? E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
10. Why is there no sound abatement planned except for quiet zones? E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
11. What would be done for residents who live right on now? Address train ...?
Station impact. E
Response: This will be addressed with the EIS.
12.What is the distance for measuring noise impact? E
Response: This should be addressed in the T's EIS.
13. Basis for lack of addition/sound barriers? E
Response: This will be addressed in the EIS.
14. What is the noise difference between astopping/starting train as opposed to a
moving train? E
Response: This will be addressed in the EIS.
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WILL COLLE~'VILLE'S.C~TY COUNCIL CONTINUE TO
SPEND TIME AND MdNEY EXPLORING A PROJECT
COLLEYVILLE CANNOT AFFORD??
ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON
TUESDAY.,AUGUST,~19 TO~LEARN MORE
ABOUT WHY CO,LLEYVILLE CANNOT -
AFFORD THE PROPOSED COMMUTER
RAIL STATION AT JOHI~t MCCAIN AND HWY_26!
OIJR OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS? EXTREMELY. HIGH!
-- Estimated cost to Colleyville: $1 million per year to maintain a railprogram. This is more~than the average amount
budgeted for local road repairs each year:
Likely Minimal Additional Annual Cost to Operate: X300,000 - 500,000 for security, bus feeder system, drivers, etc.
~. Colleyville's budget for 2Q08 is $17.8 million. A rail expense of $1.5 nullion represents about 8% of the cun-ent budgek!
The annual cost of axail station is most likely to be paid for by increasing Colleyville's property. taX by up to the annual' `
maximum allotted ir~crease.'Thiswould also likely require the city to cut spending for oche"r services and otherdepartmer}ts,
such ~s road maintenance, parks and ;ecreativn, services to senior citizens, etc:
THERE IS CURRENTLY NO WAY TO PAY FOR THIS STATI011T!
Colleyville's sales tax eap is ah-eady at its maximum allowed by law. Of the~two cents allowed, one cent is already
committed for the next 20 years ,'the cent has typically been allocated to fund other city ~gbligations such as street
improvements, the public libral-~,'parks and other city services..
LTpder currentstate law, Colleyville cannot inereasethe sales tax rate. However, property taxes can be increased by
increasing property values again.: ,.and: again and again.
DUR OTHER COSTS?: EXTREMELY HIGH!!
• Increased traffic at an intersection that is aJi-eady heavily coltgeste~dduring morning~and evening rush hours. And we're
being told that this-raii station will not significantly affect traffic!
• Increased noise along the entire rail corridor, with commuter trains passing through Coli~yville in4both directions beginning
at 5:00 am and ending at 10:00 pm, running every 20 minutes during:peak morning and evening Havel times. Freight trains
will also use this track. At the.current time, no Sound barriers or sound abatement is planned, with the-exception of a'
"no horn" zone (quiet zone) in residential areas. 1F,sound barners were to be constructed along the track, this.would bean
additional expense :to `Colleyville.
Increased erilne,~as mass transit provides easy. aceessinto our city and our neighborhoods to people from across the -
Metroplex! We nuglit not be alile.to stop the T from coming-through Colleyville, but we do not have to INVITE crime "
into- our community.' '
.Increased poliution from diesel engines used by trains and feeder busses. passing through the area and idling at the station,.
increased cars in the area,'etc.
)UR "BENEFITS???" NEGLIGIBLE!
he T estimates that by theyear 2030, only 450 riders, approximately 1% of Colleyville's projected population, would use a
'olleyville station-and this assumesthat a bus or other feeder system would. be inplace, als'b ;rt:Colleyville's expense!
'f the'anticiodted ~SOriders' usine the station it has not been det~,rmine'd i arty Hot+ld be Colle~ti rile resrdellrs ~r taxpayers ,
ot.only'are the,initial' and follow.illg annual financial commitniepts from Colleyville huge, there is NEVER A PQSSLBILIT,Y:
F REVENLiR~SHARING, NOR IS THERE A CURRENT OR PR(SPOSEI) PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
EAR THE STATIQN. This means;~thaf not only is there no opportunity of every realizing any economic benefits,_.there is
so never a chance of"recovering any of our'investedfundsl
Here's what it all`~comes down o:
Colle ~ rile tax ayera would be`liable annually for, the cost of`the ralatation which:
3'~' P
• Colle~ville.does not have the budget to fund
• they do not need, (Grape~%ne station is,olily" 3-S miles away):
~+ .it's residents do not want; according tomost c~ln~nents made at recent public hearings (vs. the phone survey of ~ "
residents; which~did notaddress any ofthe>ssUe t7~~olved with a rail station at the proposed site!)
slrx~;,;
ote: The'~tail Committee will deliver its Interim Report on the,proposed rail station to City. Council
it-"a Pre-Council meeting at 5:30 pm on Tuesday August 19 2008 in~tl~e Executive Conference Room on
the3rd"fioor of City Hall at 100 Main Street. This meeting is opento the"public, but the public canonly
observe at this time. '
The regular City Council meeting willfollow, beginning at 7:30 pm on the 3rd floor in City~Council
hambers, after'which"there will be an opportunity for.the public tospeak.
*You cannot afford to"be uninformed. or uninvolved on thls;'issue. It will impact every resident in-
Colleyville. NOW IS THE TIME TO VOICE YOUR OPINION AluD`STOP THIS RAIL STATION'IN'ITS
TRACKS.!:** __.~ -: , .
Here is how to contact City,Council members and other key"deeision makers NOW, before the August 19 meeting:.
' Mayor Dayid Kelly " Cazol Wollin Place'I Mike Taylor Place b
kellyd @ci:colleyville.tx.us wollinc@ci.colleyville,tx.us taylorm @ci.colleyville. tx.us
:. .
Mayor Pro Tem Jon Ayers Tony Licata Place 2 Community Development Coordinator '
ayersj@ci.colleyville.tx.us licatat@ci.colleyvilleitx:us ;, RonRuthven
Stan Hail Place 3 tvthvenr@ci.colleyville.tx.us
Rail Committee Chairman ; halls@ci.colleyville.tx.us City Manager William Lindley .
john Gooding `lindleyw@ci.colleyyille.tx.us
comrailcom@ gmaii.eom Tom Hart Place 5
www.colleyville'.com -
` hartt@ci.colleyyille.tx.us .
Paid for by ~oneerned Citizens of .Colleyville
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(Above information has"been obtained by citizens attending the May/June/July-Rail Sta6o~ Committee Meetings)