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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSign Board of Appeals-Minutes-2/12/2008~, ~~-,., City of Colleyville Minutes -Final Sign Board of Appeals 100 Main Street Colleyville, Texas 76034 (817) 503-1000 vrww.colleyville. com Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:00 PM City Council Chambers 1. CALL TO ORDER The Zoning Board of Adjustments meeting of the City of Colleyville was called to order by Chairman McNosky on February 12, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. 2. ROLL CALL Present: Board members Lisa Kenney, Ed Moore, Rich Munson, Dee McNosky and Kevin Sams (Alternate 1) Absent: Board members Skip Reynolds and Uton Dellosso (Alternate 2), which has indicated, through a letter, that he wishes to resign from the Board Staff Present: Ron Ruthven and Amy Shelley 3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Board member Kenney moved to approve the January 10, 2008 meeting minutes as written. Board member Munson seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 -Kenney, Moore, Munson, McNosky, Sams, Alt. 1 Absent: 2 -Reynolds, Dellosso, Alt. 2 5. TABLED AGENDA ITEMS 5a Case A-07-022 - Request for a variance from the regulations of the Colleyville Land Development Code regarding monument sign requirements on Tracts 3D and 3E, Abstract 963 of the A.J. Lott Survey located at 7015 and 7017 Colleyville Boulevard Board member Moore moved to remove case A-07-022 from the tabled items. Board member Munson seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 -Kenney, Moore, Munson, McNosky, Sams, Alt. 1 Absent: 2 -Reynolds, Dellosso, Alt. 2 City of Colleyville Page 1 Printed on 4/30/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final February 12, 2008 Ron Ruthven presented the case and briefed the Board members. Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 7:07 p.m. Kip Whitman, the applicant, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Whitman regarding if three signs are being proposed? Mr. Whitman replied yes. Board member Moore questioned staff if he is allowed two monument signs? Ron Ruthven replied two signs are allowed, however, three signs are not. Mr. Whitman stated not wanting three signs out of preference but for safety concerns. Board member Kenney questioned staff regarding if the speed limit on Colleyville Boulevard will change once the highway is widened? Chairman McNosky replied the last that she knew, the speed limit will not increase. Board member Kenney questioned Mr. Whitman regarding how many tenants are proposed for the development? Mr. Whitman replied not knowing at this time. He stated the tenants will be spaced out between the signs and that they will not all appear on each sign. Mr. Whitman stated the signs will be readable from a distance. He stated the buildings are going to have old world charm. He stated he wants the signs to be seen without being hazardous to the drivers on Colleyville Boulevard. Board member Moore questioned Mr. Whitman regarding if the square footage of the signs will be less than what is allowed? Mr. Whitman replied yes. Board member Munson questioned Mr. Whitman if the signs total square footage will exceed what is allowed by the ordinance? Mr. Whitman replied the intent is not to abuse what size is allowed. He stated the signs will be a lot smaller than what is permitted on each sign. Board member Moore stated not having an issue with granting the variance for the three signs, however he questioned what is the size of each sign being proposed? Mr. Whitman stated not knowing at this time. He stated the signs will probably be approximately 7 x 10. City of Colleyville Page 2 -~r~ntea on 4isvitvuo Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final February 12, 2008 Lynn Bural, 5104 Chelsea, Colleyville, the sign builder, came forward to show an exhibit with a rough draft of the proposed signs. Board member Munson stated the total sign area would not exceed what is allowed by the ordinance, according to the proposed 7 x 10 size. Board member Moore questioned Mr. Whitman regarding if there are three different sizes being proposed? Mr. Whitman replied no. He stated each sign will be the same size, the exhibit that is shown is for example purposes only. Board member Kenney stated the applicant is allowed 224 square feet according to the ordinance. She stated the Board may give a condition of a maximum 300 square feet for the three signs so that the applicant may have some room for adjustments for the signs. Board member Sams stated not having an issue for granting a variance for the three signs, however, he stated not being sure that he would be supportive with going over what the ordinance allows for square footage. Board member Kenney stated not wanting to go over the 336 square footage allowed. Chairman McNosky questioned staff regarding if the Board can place conditions on the square footage for the three proposed signs? Ron Ruthven replied that if the applicant does not intent to exceed the sign regulations, then there are no conditions necessary. Mr. Bural stated needing some room for adjustments because the architectural features of the sign may take up some of the square footage. He stated Mr. Whitman will need as much square footage as possible. Chairman McNosky questioned staff if the architectural features would be part of the sign? Ron Ruthven replied yes, if it is attached to the sign then it becomes part of the sign. Chairman McNosky stated if the variance is granted, the total square footage allowed for the signs would be 336 square feet to share between all three signs. Ron Ruthven concurred. Board member Moore stated that is the maximum. Board member Kenney questioned the Board if the square footage allowed would be below 336 square feet? Ron Ruthven suggested a maximum width for the signs as well. City of Colleyville Page 3 Printed on 4/30/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final February 12, 2008 Board member Munson questioned Mr. Whitman regarding what is the measurement from the proposed right of way line or from the property line to the back of the curb for the parking, the head in parking? Mr. Whitman stated the signs will fit in islands. Board member Sams stated 336 square feet across the three signs in total is what is being discussed and that is in line with the ordinance. He stated not thinking that is what is being proposed. Board member Kenney concurred and stated she suggested a maximum of 300 square feet to be allowed for the total square footage for all three signs. Board member Munson questioned the Board about what are the thoughts regarding limiting the width of the sign? Board member Kenney stated as long as the applicant stays within the regulations in the sign ordinance. There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 7:39 p.m. Ron Ruthven stated needing the Board to decide how far the signs will be from the property line and a minimum distance from one sign to another or it could be tied to the site plan as submitted by the applicant. Board member Munson questioned staff regarding what is the frontage? Ron Ruthven replied 367. Mr. Whitman replied he wants to place the signs semi-equally apart from each other. He stated there may be adjustments made since there are telephone polls on the property. Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Whitman regarding how far from the property line will the signs be placed? Mr. Whitman replied within five feet. Board member Moore stated the parking is setback and the signs will be equal to the parking? Mr. Whitman replied no, they will be set a little in front of the parked cars. Discussion occurred between Board member Munson and the other Board members regarding the spacing of the signs on the property. Mr. Whitman stated not wanting the signs on top of each other. Ron Ruthven stated according to the site plan, the signs are approximately 100 feet apart. He suggested that the Board give specifics regarding the spacing of the signs. Board member Munson stated a minimum of 122 feet. He stated the distance could be as much as 150 feet. Board member Kenney stated the applicant needs some room for City of Colleyville Page 4 Printed on 4/30/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final February 12, 2008 adjustments regarding the placement of the signs because of the layout of the land. She stated approximately evenly spaced and no closer than about 75 feet together. Board member Munson stated a minimum of 100 feet between the signs. He questioned if the Board want to increase the minimum distance so that the signs will not be too close together. He stated letting the sign ordinance dictate the minimum distance between the signs and let the applicant worry about the aesthetics. Board member Moore stated it is not the Board's responsibility to design this for the applicant. Board member Kenney questioned the Board if they want to put some type of distance between the signs? Board member Munson stated the ordinance should dictate the placement of the signs. Board member Kenney questioned the Board if they want to set a maximum square footage among the three signs, 300? Board member Moore stated 275 is better. Board member Kenney stated the ordinance would allow 336 if the Board allowed all three signs. Board member Sams concurred and stated 270 gives three 90 foot signs. Board member Munson stated 270 or 300. He stated the applicant has indicated not needing more than 224. Chairman McNosky stated the decorative portion of the sign would need to be considered in the square footage amounts. She stated being more comfortable with the 300 square footage. Board member Munson stated 300. Chairman McNosky stated that staff needs a minimum distance from the property line. Ron Ruthven stated the site plan shows the signs on the property line. Board member Munson stated there should be a minimum of 1 foot from the property line. Chairman McNosky stated the spacing between the signs was another item that staff needs a minimum for. Board member Kenney stated the ordinance shall dictate the distance. Board member Sams stated no one sign shall be in excess of what is allowed in the ordinance as well. Board member Kenney moved to approve case A-07-022 and allow the City of Colleyville Page 5 Printed on 4/30/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final February 12, 2008 applicant three signs with a maximum accumulative square footage amongst the three signs not to exceed 300 square feet; and no one individual sign to exceed that permissible by the sign ordinance; and in addition that all signs be a minimum of one foot from the property line; as far as the spacing between the three signs, the applicant is to follow the sign ordinance. Board member Moore seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 5 -Kenney, Moore, Munson, McNosky, Sams, Alt. Absent: 2 -Reynolds, Dellosso, Alt. 2 6. REPORTS AND COMMENTS None 7. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m. I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall on Friday, February 8, 2008 by 5:00 p.m. Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant The meeting minutes were approved on April 29, 2008. City of Colleyville Page 6 Printed on 4/30/2008