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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSign Board of Appeals-Minutes-1/10/2008~ l iiJ .> y~~~ ~:..., City of Colleyville Minutes -Final Sign Board of Appeals 100 Main Street Colleyville, Texas 76034 (817) 503-1000 www.colleyville.com Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:00 PM City Council Chambers 1. CALL TO ORDER The Sign Board of Appeals meeting of the City of Colleyville was called to order by Chairman McNosky on January 10, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. 2. ROLL CALL Present: Board members Ed Moore, Rich Munson, Dee McNosky and Kevin Sams (Alternate 1) Absent: Board members Lisa Kenney, Skip Reynolds and Uton Dellosso (Alternate 2) Staff Present: Ron Ruthven, Justin Bass and Amy Shelley 3. 4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE APPROVAL OF MINUTES Board member Moore moved to approve the December 11, 2007 meeting minutes as written. Board member Munson seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 4 -Moore, Munson, McNosky, Sams, Alt. 1 Absent: 3 -Kenney, Reynolds, Dellosso, Alt. 2 5. AGENDA ITEM 5a Case A-08-001 -Request for a variance from the regulations of the Colleyville Land Development Code regarding monument sign requirements on Lot 2A, Block 1 of the Docs Addition located at 4400 Colleyville Boulevard Ron Ruthven presented the case and briefed the Board members. Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 7:09 p.m. Chandi Rudel, the applicant, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. Chairman McNosky and Ms. Rudel discussed the height and placement City of Colleyville Page 1 Printed on 2/13/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final January 10, 2008 of the proposed sign in regards to the exhibits. Lynn Bural, 5104 Chelsea, Colleyville, the sign builder, came forward to present the case and brief the Board members. Board member Munson questioned Ms. Rudel regarding if TxDot has acquired the property for right of way and if they have completed? Ms. Rudel replied she hopes that they are done. She stated they have settled. Board member Munson stated he understood it will be tight for signs. Discussion occurred between Board member Munson and Ms. Rudel regarding the height and location of the sign and the tenants or possible tenants that will be on the sign. Ms. Rudel stated she had three sign companies come and give estimates and they have said this is the only solution for the location and size of the proposed sign. Chairman McNosky questioned staff if this request will cover both signs, the current proposed sign and the future sign? Ron Ruthven replied the request is to allow more than one sign per 250 feet of frontage. Chairman McNosky stated this will save the applicant a step as opposed to coming back and requesting another sign. Discussion occurred between Chairman McNosky, Board member Munson and Ms. Rudel regarding what is currently on the property and what is being proposed. Ms. Rudel stated the exhibit provided is an illustration showing the proposed sign and its location. Board member Moore stated the rendition of the sign does not conform. Ms. Rudel replied that is what they are proposing to construct. Board member Moore stated that sign is completely out of compliance. Ms. Rudel stated they wanted the sign to look like it goes with the rest of the building, stucco. Discussion occurred between Board member Moore and Ms. Rudel regarding the current signs located on the property. Ms. Rudel stated that when TxDot takes down those signs, there will be no signage on the property at all. Chairman McNosky stated until the new sign is constructed, the old signs will need to remain in place. Board member Moore stated special permission was given for the temporary signs for those four signs. He stated they were in non-compliance when they were put up. Ms. Rudel stated those signs have been there for about 12 years. Board member Moore stated those signs should be removed. Board member Munson questioned Ms. Rudel if the signs will be City of Colleyville Page 2 Printed on 2/13/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final January 10, 2008 removed? Ms. Rudel replied those signs are the property of TxDot. She stated TxDot stated they will give her 30 days notice of when the signs will be removed. Chairman McNosky stated the city will notify TxDot regarding the removal of those signs. Board member Moore stated according to the request, three of the signs will be removed if the variance is approved, but one will remain. He questioned Ms. Rudel regarding what is the fourth sign that will remain? Ron Ruthven stated the fourth sign to remain is the Animal America sign. Board member Munson stated he understands the situation and knows that the applicant needs signage. He stated he likes that the sign will match the building and that it will be another architectural feature of the building. Board member Munson stated he did not want to agree to the second sign since the request does not state where the second sign will be located. Chairman McNosky concurred. Gary Wang, 4408 Colleyville Boulevard, spoke in favor of the variance request and stated because of the right of way being taken away, the applicant had no choice but to request a variance. Ray Spoth, 6309 Connie Lane, Colleyville, spoke in favor of the variance request and stated because of the right of way being taken away, the applicant had no choice. Discussion occurred between Board member Munson and Ms. Rudel regarding the location of TxDot's markings for the property line. Board member Munson stated that the signs are indeed in TxDot right of way. Discussion occurred between Chairman McNosky and staff regarding the future sign. Ron Ruthven replied staff would recommend denial of a sign that does not exist and the location is not known. Board member Sams questioned Ms. Rudel if all four of the existing signs will come down, eventually? Ms. Rudel replied yes. She stated that Animal America had bought the sign from TxDot for $1 to have the sign remain until they are able to do something with their signage. Discussion occurred between Board members Sams and Moore regarding which signs will be left and which signs will be removed. Ron Ruthven replied that all four signs are in TxDot right of way and will eventually be removed upon their decision. City of Colleyville Page 3 Printed on 2/13/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final January 10, 2008 There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 7:40 p.m. Board member Sams stated there is not another solution for this property owner given the limited amount of frontage on the property and stated he is not opposed to this request. Chairman McNosky stated the proposed sign will be constructed to code and will be cleared through staff. Board member Munson questioned staff regarding if the applicant has the option to use stucco? Ron Ruthven stated the building is stucco, therefore stucco would be acceptable. Board member Munson moved to approve case A-08-001. Board member Sams suggested a friendly amendment to the motion to approve the variance as requested however, require the four existing signs to be removed. Board member Munson replied the Board can not request something that is not within the Board's control. He stated that is neither the applicant's property nor the City's property, it belongs to TxDot. Ron Ruthven stated it could be made into the motion and staff can enforce the removal of those signs at the time of building permit for the new sign. Board member Munson questioned staff if it could be made that a written request be given to TxDot, not a requirement, but a request. Ron Ruthven replied that if staff concludes that the signs are in TxDot right of way, the signs are to be removed prior to the building permit being approved. Chairman McNosky stated the applicant does not want the signs removed until she has her signage in place. Board member Sams replied he could modify his motion to accommodate the amendment. He moved to approve the variance as requested but not approve the one sign per the linear footage. Board member Munson withdrew his motion. Ron Ruthven stated the motion needs to include that the sign will not be in the utility easement. Discussion occured between Board members Moore and Munson regarding the location of the sign in relation to the easement. Board member Sams moved to approve case A-08-001 as requested with a set back of 10 feet from the property line but not approve the request to have two signs on the property. Board member Munson seconded. City of Colleyville Page 4 Printed on 2/13/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final January 10, 2008 The motion to approve failed by the following vote: Aye: 3 -Munson, McNosky, Sams, Alt. 1 Nay: 1 -Moore Absent: 3 -Kenney, Reynolds, Dellosso, Alt. 2 Chairman McNosky stated the applicant may appeal the request to City Council. 6. TABLED AGENDA ITEM 6a Case A-07-022 - Request for a variance from the regulations of the Colleyville Land Development Code regarding monument sign requirements on Tracts 3D and 3E, Abstract 963 of the A.J. Lott Survey located at 7015 and 7017 Colleyville Boulevard Board member Moore moved to remove case A-07-022 from the tabled item. Board member Sams seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 4 -Moore, Munson, McNosky, Sams, Alt. 1 Absent: 3 -Kenney, Reynolds, Dellosso, Alt. 2 Ron Ruthven presented the case and briefed the Board members. Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 7:50 p.m. Kip Whitman, the applicant, came forward and requested to continue to the next meeting when more Board members are present. There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at 7:56 p.m. Board member Sams moved to continue case A-07-022 to the next Board meeting. Board member Moore seconded. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 4 -Moore, Munson, McNosky, Sams, Alt. 1 Absent: 3 -Kenney, Reynolds, Dellosso, Alt. 2 7. REPORTS AND COMMENTS Kip Whitman questioned the Board regarding when were the ordinances written that we are working from? Ron Ruthven replied the last update was in 2004. Kip Whitman stated that someone in the sign business should be a Board member since the majority of the ordinances are written for a four lane highway. City of Colleyville Page 5 Printed on 2/13/2008 Sign Board of Appeals Minutes -Final January 10, 2008 Board member Moore stated the briefings that are presented by staff need to be accurate. Board member Munson stated the applicant is the one that made the change to the request. Board member Moore requested that addendum be given to the Board members. Board member Sams stated the agenda had already been posted therefore staff can not update the document, it has to be done during the briefing update. Ron Ruthven replied the briefing is to give the utmost information, however, he stated staff would do try to get the information to you at a sooner time. Chairman McNosky stated staff does the best that they can do and they do not intentionally leave information out. 8. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 8:02 p.m. I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall on Friday, January 4, 2008 by 5:00 p.m. Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant The meeting minutes were approved on February 12, 2008. City of Colleyville Page 6 Printed on 2/13/2008