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Sign Board of Appeals
100 Main Street
Colleyville, Texas 76034
(817) 503-1000
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Tuesday, November 13, 2007
7:15 PM
City Council Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER
The Sign Board of Appeals meeting of the City of Colleyville was called
to order by Chairman McNosky on November 13, 2007 at 8:32 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Board members Lisa Kenney, Ed Moore, Rich Munson, Dee
McNosky
Absent: Board members Skip Reynolds, Kevin Sams (Alternate 1) and
Uton Dellosso (Alternate 2)
Staff Present: Ron Ruthven and Amy Shelley
3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Board member Kenney moved to approve the September 11, 2007
meeting minutes as written. Board member Knox seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 4 -Kenney, Moore, Munson, McNosky
Absent: 3 -Reynolds, Sams, Alt. 1, Dellosso, Alt. 2
5. AGENDA ITEMS
5a Case A-07-022 - Request for a variance from the regulations of the
Colleyville Land Development Code regarding monument sign
requirements on Tracts 3D and 3E, Abstract 963 of the A.J. Lott Survey
located at 7015 and 7017 Colleyville Boulevard
Ron Ruthven presented the case and briefed the Board members.
Kip Whitman, the applicant, requested his item to be tabled until the next
meeting.
Board member Kenney moved to table case A-07-022. Board member
Munson seconded.
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The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 4 -Kenney, Moore, Munson, McNosky
Absent: 3 -Reynolds, Sams, Alt 1, Dellosso, Alt. 2
5b Case A-07-023 -Discuss and review Chapter 7-Sign Regulations of the
Colleyville Land Development Code regarding electronic, flashing and
scrolling reader board sign requirements
Ron Ruthven presented the case and briefed the Board members.
Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing at 8:39 p.m.
Lynn Bural, 6301 Colleyville Boulevard, stated the signs should have a
15 sec. time limit with a message. He stated scrolling signs create
business for business owners.
Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Bural, for clarity, regarding what are
his suggestions for the Board to consider? Mr. Bural replied being in
favor of scrolling signs with a shorter time limit. He stated he would
recommend the 15 second time limit like most others are using.
Chairman McNosky questioned Mr. Bural if that 15 second time limit is
for a scrolling message or with a standard message? Mr. Bural replied a
changing message. He stated there could be a restriction put in place by
limiting how much the message can change. He stated as long as the
message is not scrolling all the time, there is a good use for it. He stated
15 seconds before the message changes would be good or preferred.
Board member Moore questioned Mr. Bural regarding if scrolling signs
bring in business? Mr. Bural stated yes, they help bring in business. He
stated these signs are very popular.
Board member Kenney questioned Mr. Bural regarding what is the name
of the case in the Houston court that was mentioned earlier? Mr. Bural
stated he did not bring it.
Board member Munson questioned Mr. Bural if there is a moratorium
going on for signs because of the case mentioned? Mr. Bural stated no,
signs are being put up without permits, as he understands. Board
member Kenney stated unless there is an appeal on the injunction, it
would mean the statute can not be enforced.
Kent Fonseca, 3605 Woodcrest Court, stated being in favor of scrolling
signs, continuous loop, with less than a rate of 30 seconds. He stated
those signs increase business.
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Board member Moore questioned Mr. Fonseca if he would be in favor of
having these type of signs all the way down Colleyville Boulevard, maybe
25? Mr. Fonseca replied yes, but realistically, there will not be 25 signs
along Colleyville Boulevard.
Roger De Sarno, 302 Del Mar Court, asking the Board to add a revision
on the signage restrictions for Colleyville to be more competitive and to
step into the 21st Century. He stated people are use to looking at these
types of signs. He stated the Board needs to review and put the
necessary restrictions in the regulations but add digital information to the
signs would give the businesses something to make their business grow.
Linda Seim, 3951 Brown Trail, spoke in favor of scrolling signs and
stated not understanding why the ordinance is written like it is to allow
flashing time and temperature, but not a slowly scrolling message.. She
stated she would like to be able to use her existing sign to scroll a
message for the community.
Brent Stone, 4408 Colleyville Boulevard, owner and operator of the Kwik
Kar facility on Colleyville Boulevard, stated being in favor of the reader
board signs in general. He stated if Colleyville needs to come into the
21st Century, it would help benefit the businesses. He stated there
should be some regulations regarding the scrolling message, maybe
change to 15 seconds. He stated these types of signs are very
expensive and businesses would not install these signs if the signs did
not help to improve their business.
Board member Munson questioned Mr. Stone regarding how large
should the reader board signs be to be effective? Mr. Stone stated the
size of the sign area complies with the sign regulations that are currently
in place. Board member Munson questioned Mr. Stone regarding if the
rate of scroll or if the minimum or maximum time limit of display should
be 15 seconds to change an image or 15 seconds for the scrolling
message to pass? Mr. Stone replied rate of scroll should be addressed.
Board member Munson agreed and questioned what would the industry
have for the rate of scroll? Mr. Stone replied the rate of scroll can be
regulated by a computer and that is what needs to be addressed, not too
fast, down to a legible speed, more realistic speed, no value to have a
sign at a fast rate. He stated not being in favor of flashing signs only
scrolling signs.
Board members Moore and Kenney discussed what messages could or
could not be allowed. Board member Kenney stated messages could
not be limited because of the First Amendment.
Chairman McNosky questioned staff regarding what is to be done next?
Ron Ruthven replied suggestions can be made now or the Board can
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discuss more at a later date.
There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at
9:13 p.m.
Chairman McNosky questioned the Board members if they would like to
make recommendations now or at a later date when the other Board
members are available for suggestions? Board member Kenney stated
the Council will make there own recommendations. She thanked those
who spoke in regards to the regulations. She stated there is a
concencise for the digital scrolling signs and stated not all businesses
will put these type of signs up because of the costs associated with
them.
Chairman McNosky thanked those who spoke as well. She stated the
cheap electronic signs should not be permitted and restrictions should be
put in place regarding scrolling or flashing signs to maintain the corridor.
She stated not being in favor of flashing. She stated the scrolling needs
to be looked at more. She stated all members of the Board need to
consider the regulations.
Board member Munson stated flashing is not something to be
considered. He stated wanting to look at the rate of scroll. He stated
there may be some information regarding the rate of scroll that could
help with the recommendations. He stated the Board needs more
information.
Board member Moore stated being against a scrolling sign for the
aesthetic value. He stated not being in favor of the changing of the
messages everyday.
Chairman McNosky stated the rate of scroll, position of sign can be
controlled. She stated she would like more research done if the
messages can only pertain to the business. Ron Ruthven replied staff
could put together some more information for the next meeting. He
stated staff could summarize the recommendations and present those to
the Board at the next meeting.
All Board members present stated they do not want flashing signs.
Board member Munson stated he would like the comments, received
tonight, distributed to the other Board members. He stated he would like
the other Board members to put comments in the next briefing as well.
All Board members present agreed to see the comments and
recommendations by the other Board members at the next meeting.
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6. REPORTS AND COMMENTS
Ron Ruthven asked the Board members if they would like to discuss the
flow chart that was distributed by the City Attorney in a workshop at the
next meeting, around 6:30 p.m. before the regular scheduled meeting to
be at 7:00 p.m. All present agreed.
7. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:27 p.m.
I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall
on Friday, November 9, 2007 by 5:00 p.m.
Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant
The meeting minutes were approved on December 11, 2007.
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