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City of Colleyville
City Council Worksession
Minutes
City Hall
100 Main Street
Colleyville, Texas 76034
817. 503.1000
www.colleyville.com
Tuesday, January 24, 2017
6:00 p.m.
Executive Conference Room
Third Floor – City Hall
Mayor Richard Newton called the Colleyville City Council Worksession to order on
January 24, 2017 at 6:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL: Mayor Richard Newton, and Councilmembers Tammy Nakamura,
Bobby Lindamood, Jody Short, Nancy Coplen and Mike Taylor
Absent: Mayor Pro Tem Chris Putnam
City Manager Jennifer Fadden, Deputy City Manager Chris Fuller, Public Works
Director Jeremy Hutt, City Engineer Cheryl Taylor, Fire Chief Brian Riley, and City
Secretary Amy Shelley
2. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION
2a Presentation and discussion of the Glade Road Project
Public Works Director Jeremy Hutt presented this item and briefed the City
Council. Chad Gartner, TranSystems was available for answering City Council
questions.
The phases of the Glade Road corridor include the following:
Phase 1 = Bransford Road to Manning Drive
Phase 2 = Manning Drive to Pool Road
Phase 3 = Pool Road to Heritage Avenue
Phase 4 = Western City limits to Bransford Road
Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner if the design work currently being done is for
Phase 2. Mr. Gartner replied correct.
Councilmember Coplen asked staff about rutting. Director Hutt explained that
rutting is used with a blade to skim coat or provide a scab repair, much like what
was completed around the soccer field area along Pleasant Run Road.
Councilmember Taylor asked staff why Stafford Drive will have an overlay.
Director Hutt replied there is a transition piece along Stafford Drive from the Phase
1 project to Phase 2 section, and this area is very minimal.
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During the August 24, 2016 City Council worksession, staff presented an update
on the Glade Road Project and during the discussion at the worksession, City
Council identified questions and had requests for additional information about
various options for Phase 2 of Glade Road which required further analysis
including:
• Base Option - Curb and gutters with turn lanes, trail on the north side and
sidewalk on the south
• Option 1 - Ribbon curb with roadside ditches, sidewalk/trail on the south
side, sidewalk on the north side from Montclair Drive to Pool Road, and no
turn lanes
• Option 2 - Ribbon curbs with roadside ditches and inlets, sidewalk/trail on the
south side, sidewalk on the north from Montclair to Pool Road, and no turn
lanes
• Option 3 - Ribbon curbs with roadside ditches and inlets, sidewalk/trail on the
south side, sidewalk on the north from Montclair to Pool Road, and turn
lanes
It was noted the Base Option includes an asphalt street section with concrete
curbs and would be considered a complete reconstruction of the roadway. Options
1, 2, and 3, include the reconstruction of the existing roadway similar to a full
depth reclamation project but with the addition of a concrete ribbon curb as well
as various other features depending on the option selected. Options 1, 2 or 3
would result in a new asphalt roadway (including surface and subgrade) with
concrete ribbon curbs.
Councilmember Lindamood asked staff about an option without including drainage.
Director Hutt replied that would be Option 1.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner if the trunk line will run all along
Glade Road. Mr. Gartner replied yes, with the base option.
Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner which options have no turn lanes. Mr. Gartner
replied Options 1 and 2.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner about the right-of-way needed for these
options. She added it appears Options 2 and 3 have the lowest amount needed.
Mr. Gartner replied in terms of right-of-way parcels, not easements, the Base
Option = 5 parcels; Option 1 = 19; Option 2 = 13; and, Option 3 = 14. He added
on top of the right-of-way parcels needed, there are temporary construction and
sidewalk easements needed: Base Option = 2; Option 1 = 7 Option 2 = 3; and,
Option 3 = 3.
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Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if there are sections in the options where
sidewalks are not needed. Mr. Gartner replied in Options 1, 2, and 3 there are
sections along the north side with no sidewalks.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner why Option 1 does not have the
asphalt reclaim. Mr. Gartner explained that the Base Option does not include
reclamation, it is a full reconstruction option; Options 1, 2, and 3 include a
reclamation style pavement in which we are matching the roadway profile and
staying within the same alignment.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner about the higher costs. Mr. Gartner
replied when they estimate roadways, there will be a line item for the cement and
lime stabilization (materials) and a line item for the installation itself. He added
the pricing is modeled by projects in the area.
Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if his estimates of projects tend to be
high, low, or pretty close to right on. Mr. Gartner replied he tends to be pretty
close to the low bid.
Councilmember Nakamura asked Mr. Gartner about the base price of Phase 2. Mr.
Gartner replied $4.6 million. Councilmember Nakamura asked why this was
$900,000 dollars less than the base estimate given to the City Council in the last
Glade Road worksession.
Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner about what drove the $900,000. Mr. Gartner
replied he tightened the estimate to make it more accurate to match with the
additional three options.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner if sometimes having to go four feet
underground to get the pipe under the roadway is driving the cost. Mr. Gartner
replied the topography of the road follows the flow of the ditches, and typically we
are not going the opposite way of that flow, but to keep the roadway footprint
smaller, we are having to go underground.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner if this is only with Option 1. Mr. Gartner
replied yes.
Councilmember Taylor asked staff if there is a safe depth of the ditches. Director
Hutt replied anytime there is an open ditch, it becomes a maintenance issue, such
as siltation. Mr. Gartner added the minimum grade with an open ditch (grass
lined) is 3/10 of a percent to 1/2 percent over 100 feet.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner how he knows if the ditches will not
work better than the trunk line on Option 2, if the hydraulics have not been
completed. Mr. Gartner replied they have not done detailed hydraulics on Options
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1, 2, or 3; however, detailed hydraulics have been completed on Phase 1 (plans
are 90 percent complete).
Councilmember Nakamura asked Mr. Gartner what it would be for only full depth.
Mr. Gartner replied he does not have that number. Councilmember Nakamura
stated she would like to get that number.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner how it was determined where to have
the turn lanes. Mr. Gartner explained the turn lanes using the roadway exhibits.
Councilmember Nakamura asked Mr. Gartner where the turn lanes will be. Mr.
Gartner replied Camelot and Cranbrook; Beldon Trail; Montclair Drive; and East
and West Jim Mitchell Trail, Summerbrook; and, the Senior Center.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner why there is a double turn lane at
Jim Mitchell Trail. Mr. Gartner replied because of the spacing of the streets, it does
not make sense to discontinue the turn lane and then add it again for
Summerbrook.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner about the tree demolition for each
phase. Mr. Gartner explained this includes every tree: Base Option = 49; Option 1
= 132; Option 2 = 62; and Option 3 = 106.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner if the Base Option has the least amount
of trees taken. Mr. Gartner concurred.
Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner how only 49 trees are included in the Base
Option. Mr. Gartner explained how each option affects the trees.
Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner if the ditches are being made very wide. Mr.
Gartner replied the ditches have been designed to meet the standards.
Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner if they have to do the ditches with the wide
slope. Mr. Gartner replied this provides a safe roadside, and this is a typical
standard design for a roadway like this.
Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if there are any other roadside safety
things being done to improve the roadside. Mr. Gartner explained the measures
used for roadside safety.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner if a flood study has been done. Mr.
Gartner replied those details have not been completed for Phase 2, but will when
we go to design.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner if the trunk line is necessary from
Phase 2 to feed into Phase 1. Mr. Gartner replied yes, they are tying in together,
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but it has nothing to do with drainage from Phase 2, only the drainage from Phase
1.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner why the trunk line is needed in
Phase 2. Mr. Gartner replied the ditches are inadequate. Councilmember
Lindamood stated he does not believe there to be a drainage issue now; therefore,
the ditch seems to be adequate.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner if the standards for ditches has changed
since they were put in. Mr. Gartner replied yes, criteria changes regularly. Director
Hutt added he does not believe the ditches were actually designed/engineered,
they have existed since the roadway was a county road. He stated the ditches
currently work with the existing roadway; however, the ditches may not have the
100 year flood capacity as required by the Land Development Code.
Councilmember Lindamood stated he believes there will be flooding issues if the
ditches are laid back.
Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner how the Base Option would prevent
flooding. Mr. Gartner replied with the Base Option, the curb and gutter will drain
the water into the roadway, no running water will drain off the right-of-way into
private property.
Councilmember Taylor asked Mr. Gartner if there is any possible way that the road
bed would be lowered, in Phase 2, particularly through the Chelsea Park area. Mr.
Gartner replied with the Base Option, it could be lowered some to make the water
drain into the curb. He added with the other options, we are matching the existing
roadway, no changes to the profile.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner if the trunk line only runs under the
driveways. Mr. Gartner replied with Option 1, there is a trunk line that runs under
the street from the west end of Phase 2 to the ponds just to the east of Camelot
Drive.
It was noted that Mr. Gartner did not make clear to the City Council at the
beginning of the presentation that there was a drainage trunk line under the road
for Option 1. It was not shown on the drawings and not clearly explained.
Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if the line runs from Bluebonnet Drive to
the creek. Mr. Gartner replied yes, it shows up on all of the options.
Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner how many trees are from where the trunk line
stops to the west end. Mr. Gartner replied he does not have the breakdown on the
trees by stretch only by the phases.
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Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if having a smaller pipe with Option 2
could save some money. Mr. Gartner replied it could save some money, but not a
big dollar amount.
Councilmember Taylor asked Mr. Gartner if the barrier curb option provides the
tightest footprint. Mr. Gartner replied correct.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner if the roadway is being shifted to
the south between Chelsea Drive and Camelot Drive. Mr. Gartner replied yes, this
was done after the previous Glade Road worksession.
Councilmember Nakamura stated being concerned about the $19 million dollar
cost for one roadway in Colleyville.
Mayor Newton stated he would like to see a table or matrix that includes all of the
phases, options, costs, tree count, the mix and match recommendations, and full
depth reclamation.
Director Hutt asked Councilmember Lindamood about the options he would like to
see. Councilmember Lindamood replied a full depth reclamation with no drainage;
within the right-of-way, without having to get into the ditches. Director Hutt
acknowledged and added a pavement rehab, with a ribbon curb component, and
no drainage work. Councilmember Lindamood agreed.
Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if the ditches will get steeper if the
roadway gets any wider at all. Mr. Gartner replied yes, or the ditch will become
shallow.
Councilmember Coplen stated she would like the concrete on the side of the
asphalt to help make the street last longer. Director Hutt replied the number may
be higher than expected with the ribbon curb because areas where the slope gets
too steep will need to be addressed.
Mayor Newton suggested looking at the full depth reclamation only with and
without the ribbon curb option itself.
Councilmember Taylor asked staff if there have been any complaints relative to
drainage since the roadway improvements were made on Pleasant Run Road,
south of Bogart. Director Hutt replied he has not had to deal with any complaints
personally.
Councilmember Lindamood suggested a cost be provided with a six inch curb
option as opposed to just the ribbon curb.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner if we are also looking to keep the turn
lanes. Mr. Gartner replied the Base Option and Option 3 have turn lanes.
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Mayor Newton asked Mr. Gartner what he would recommend. Mr. Gartner stated
he recommends the Base Option, all the way past Camelot Drive, with a barrier
curb section and no ditches; from that point on, Option 3, east of Camelot Drive,
with a swale type ditch to carry the storm drain to the end.
Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if the sidewalk at Montclair Drive could be
extended to tie in. Mr. Gartner explained using the exhibits how the sidewalk could
be tied in at Montclair Drive.
Director Hutt summarized the discussion: look at the cost of just a reclamation
project; that component with the addition of a ribbon curb scenario; a hybrid of
the Base Option and a component of Option 3 with the split point being at the
Beldon Hollow area; and a matrix table that includes costs, trees, and right-of-
ways.
Mayor Newton agreed, but replied that does not guarantee this will be the end of
the options.
Councilmember Nakamura stated she wants to be sure the costs are confirmed for
the other phases as well.
Mayor Newton asked staff what is driving Phases 3 and 4, what is the benefit.
Director Hutt replied the project had been split with good milestones; however, it
is up to the City Council if they want to move forward or look at different
scenarios. He added Roberts Road had been discussed with Phase 3; however, it is
now being discussed with the Roberts Road design project, so one of the
components of Glade Road will be addressed with that project.
Councilmember Nakamura asked Mayor Newton about the total TIF funds. Mayor
Newton replied about $20 million, but he does not want to spend more than
approximately $10 million dollars of TIF funds on Glade Road.
Councilmember Short asked Mr. Gartner if costs have been included with the
identification of the right-of-way parcels. Mr. Gartner replied yes, it is included in
the estimates.
Councilmember Lindamood asked Mr. Gartner if this is included in the original
scope, or will this cost extra. Director Hutt replied conversations have been had
with Mr. Gartner about opportunities to amend the current scope to allow for the
additional services being requested. He stated there will be a time in which the
scope will need to be amended.
Councilmember Coplen asked Mr. Gartner when he will be coming back. Mr.
Gartner replied he will need to visit with his team to see when they can turn this
around. He stated the last change included extensive scenarios.
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3. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the City Council, Mayor Newton adjourned
the worksession at 7:47 p.m.
APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 7 AYES, 0 NAYS, AND 0 ABSTENTIONS ON THIS THE
7TH DAY OF FEBRUARY 2017.
Minutes taken and prepared by:
Amy Shelley, TRMC
City Secretary