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Planning and Zoning Commission
100 Main Street
Colleyville, Texas 76034
(817) 503-1000
www.colleyville.com
Monday, July 9, 2007
7:00 PM
City Council Chambers
6:15 P.M. -PRE-COMMISSION WORKSHOP
EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
THIRD FLOOR
LEGAL BRIEFING BY CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING PLANNING, ZONING,
PLATTING, AND LAND USE
REVIEW OF REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
DISCUSSION OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
7:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of the City of Colleyville
was called to order by Chairman Byerly on July 9, 2007 at 7:05 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Larry Knox, Dave Dudziak, Scott Redfearn,
Mary Taylor, David Phelps and Jeff Byerly
Absent: Commissioner Denis Duffy
Staff Present: Chris Fuller, Ron Ruthven, Mike Johnston, Jeremy Hutt
and Amy Shelley
3. INVOCATION
The invocation was given by Commissioner Byerly.
4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Taylor moved to approve the June 25, 2007 meeting
minutes as written. Commissioner Dudziak seconded.
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The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 -Knox, Dudziak, Redfearn, Taylor, Phelps, Byerly
Absent: 1 -Duffy
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
7. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
7a Approval of Minor Plat for Lots 1-3, Block 1 of the Northstar Bank
Addition located at 6110 Colleyville Boulevard, Case P-07-032
Ron Ruthven presented the case and briefed the Commissioners.
Commissioner Byerly moved to approve case P-07-032. Commissioner
Knox seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 -Knox, Dudziak, Redfearn, Taylor, Phelps, Byerly
Absent: 1 -Duffy
7b Approval of a Minor Plat for Lots 1 and 2, Block 1 of the Beden Addition
on 3.0 acres in the S.C.H. Wilton Survey located at 2313 Glade Road,
Case P-07-033
Ron Ruthven presented the case and briefed the Commissioners.
Commissioner Phelps questioned staff regarding the lots on the plat, are
they part of this plat? Ron Ruthven concurred.
Commissioner Redfearn questioned staff regarding if there are drawings
showing the proposed lots? Chris Fuller replied no, other than
approximation. Commissioner Redfearn questioned if the house would
straddle the lot line? Chris Fuller replied yes, and used the diagrams to
show the approximate lines.
Commissioner Phelps questioned staff regarding what is the age of the
aerial photo? Chris Fuller replied it being current. Ron Ruthven replied
it being a year old.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding what are the provisions
for fire access and has the Fire Marshal reviewed this plat? Chris Fuller
replied the Fire Marshal has reviewed the plat and has recommended a
24 foot fire lane built to fire lane standards with a 14 foot overhead
clearance for the duration of the property to essentially serve as the
driveway to ensure that the Fire Department would have access to the
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house but would also have the ability to withstand the weight of the truck.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff if this type of flag lot has been
approved in the past? Chris Fuller replied yes, both approved and
denied similar requests.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding if the 57 foot of frontage
includes the 24 foot of fire access and is it part of Lot 2? Chris Fuller
suggested asking the applicant if they would be willing to construct the
24 foot wide fire access since it would be quite expensive.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff for clarity, that it could not be built
unless the Fire Marshal signed off on it? Chris Fuller replied the property
could be platted, however, is the property owner willing to build that fire
lane to the house that could be constructed would be the relevant
question for your consideration. Commissioner Byerly questioned staff if
the Commission wanted to make some waiver, could that be done on the
plat or is it up to the Fire Marshal? Chris Fuller replied the Fire Marshal,
and the fire lane is not a platting standard, it is a building permit
standard.
Commissioner Byerly questioned City Attorney Kallas regarding what is
the time frame for this plat? Chris Fuller replied the clock starts once the
application is complete as it does not meet the standards, however, staff
received the revisions on Friday, July 6, therefore the Commission could
continue until the next meeting and it would still be within the time frame.
City Attorney Kallas replied as long as the application is not complete,
then the time does not begin.
Commissioner Redfearn questioned staff for clarity that there would be a
long driveway for the fire lane in addition to the need for a turning radius
at the end of it? Chris Fuller replied the Fire Marshal placed a stipulation
on the plat for the turning around of the trucks.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff for clarity if this plat were
approved, then that would be a condition and if they do not want to meet
that condition, then it is approved and they can accept it or not? Chris
Fuller concurred.
Commissioner Phelps stated there are some lots adjacent to this lot that
are not developed which might leave for the potential redevelopment of
this area, although not a part of this request, it could happen in the
future.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff if there are any limitations if this
plat is not approved tonight. Chris Fuller replied no, other than having to
apply for another application.
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Commissioner Redfearn questioned staff if the plat were approved with
the lot line going right through the house, does that present any
complications if the owner were to decide they did not want to build on
it? Chris Fuller replied there being options, if the plat were approved,
and the house were to stay, it would be a legal non-conforming lot
because the plat was approved that way while the house was existing. If
the house stays, and they want to live in this house while they are
building the new house, however, the two houses would not be able to
remain on one lot and staff would ensure that would not occur.
Commissioner Taylor stated the
Department has already stated this
not being in favor of this approval.
lots are so skinny and the Fire
lot would really not work and stated
Commissioner Phelps stated in the past there has been a 500 foot
distance from a point of access. Fire Chief Mike Johnston stated a fire
hydrant would be required to be placed on this property as well as the
fire lane. He stated with the hydrant being on private property that could
pose issues as well.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned staff regarding if a turn around for
the fire trucks would be required? Chief Johnston replied yes.
Commissioner Knox moved to deny case P-07-033. Commissioner
Byerly seconded.
Commissioner Knox stated there need to be some provisions for the fire
lanes and turn around for flag lots and easements. There are too many
issues regarding fire requirements.
Commissioner Byerly stated the applicant needs to be present to tell the
Commission they are willing to comply with the fire issues.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 6 -Knox, Dudziak, Redfearn, Taylor, Phelps, Byerly
Absent: 1 -Duffy
8. TABLED AGENDA ITEMS
8a Approval of a request for an amendment to the PUDC-Planned Unit
Development Commercial property on Lot 2R, Block 1 of the Atlantic Oil
and Gas Addition located at 7970 Precinct Line Road, Case Z-07-023
Commissioner Phelps moved to remove case Z-07-023 from the tabled
items. Commissioner Redfearn seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
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Aye: 6 -Knox, Dudziak, Redfearn, Taylor, Phelps, Byerly
Absent: 1 -Duffy
Chris Fuller presented the case and briefed the Commissioners.
Commissioner Taylor questioned staff regarding if there were new
drawings submitted with the cross access requested by the
Commission? Chris Fuller replied the applicant did submit new drawings
but not with the cross access.
Bryan Chandler, the applicant, came forward to present the request and
brief the Commissioners.
Commissioner Redfearn and Mr. Chandler discussed driveway
placements. Mr. Chandler stated he would use the access point from
Precinct Line Road as depicted on the approved site plan that has been
platted.
Commissioner Phelps questioned staff regarding if the existing driveway
would require approval by another body other than the Planning and
Zoning Commission and City Council? Chris Fuller replied it would
require a driveway permit from TxDot. Mr. Chandler replied the approval
from TxDot would not be an issue, however, he stated he was not able to
get approval before this meeting.
Commissioner Byerly questioned Mr. Chandler regarding where is the
second access for the fire access? Mr. Chandler used the drawings
provided to show the second access. Commissioner Byerly questioned
Mr. Chandler if the access had been acquired from the adjacent church?
Chris Fuller replied there is a landscape buffer between the edge of
pavement and the church and it appears to go into the church parking
lot. Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding how would a fire
truck get between the landscape buffer? Mr. Chandler replied the
landscape buffer could be removed and it could be paved. He stated
there is no easement through the church parking lot, but that access
abuts the church parking lot and that was the only way he had of
providing the emergency fire exit.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding what are the City's
thoughts regarding his answer? Chris Fuller replied if the intent is to
remove the landscape buffer and pave, it would not need to be shown on
the plat, therefore reducing the open space requirements. He stated it
would also need to be approved by the Fire Marshal.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding the access issue, if
there is not an easement in place? Chris Fuller stated the church could
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barricade and not grant access, but he stated he would need to see the
plat for the church. Mr. Chandler replied there is not an easement.
Commissioner Taylor questioned Mr. Chandler regarding as to why if the
church is only busy on one day, why is it such an issue to leave the cross
access entrance? Mr: Chandler stated there could be traffic either way
and stated the cross access is not necessary. Commissioner Taylor
stated the cross access is there to help the businesses, sharing in
business. Mr. Chandler stated there will be about 40 cars a day
generated by his business, which would not have an impact on the gas
station. Commissioner Taylor disagreed.
Commissioner Taylor questioned Mr. Chandler regarding what products
will generate the sales tax revenue? Mr. Chandler replied locks, boxes
and moving supplies.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned Mr. Chandler if there will be sales tax
generated by the rental fees? Mr. Chandler replied no, not yet.
Commissioner Redfearn questioned Mr. Chandler regarding what is the
building setback? Mr. Chandler replied they are going to line up with the
church.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mr. Chandler regarding the lack of
open space, is there a way to accommodate the open space? Mr.
Chandler replied staff has requested that the parking spaces be
removed from the 40 foot landscaped area which will increase some of
the open space area and more vegetation will be placed in that area.
Commissioner Dudziak stated 20% is the goal, he questioned Mr.
Chandler if there could be some unique feature that could be added?
Mr. Chandler questioned Commissioner Dudziak if the facade does not
add to that? Mr. Chandler stated he could look into something, but
stated the vegetation along the sides would add to the features as well.
Commissioner Dudziak stated he wanted to see more to trade off the
extra 3% open space that is lost. Mr. Chandler stated the property has
had issues with being sold for a more prime retail development.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned if there could be something that
could add to the decor of the project.
Commissioner Taylor stated wanting to see a two tier landscape
package that would enhance the look of the storage facility. She stated
she wanted it to look like it fit in Colleyville's decor. Mr. Chandler replied
he could look into his package.
Commissioner Taylor questioned Mr. Chandler regarding if the entrance
to the church could be blocked, but leave the entrance to the gas station,
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could that work for the project, to be able to leave that cross access?
Mr. Chandler replied the difficulty for that is for security, this is the only
point of access to control. He stated there is not a way to make it work.
Commissioner Byerly questioned Mr. Chandler regarding if an easement
for the fire access has been received from the church? Mr. Chandler
replied no, it is difficult for the church to grant an approval, their process
is lengthy. He stated it not being required, he stated they meet the fire
requirement.
Fire Chief Mike Johnston stated the Fire Marshal is expecting to have
two points of access on to any commercial property. He stated to the
north, along the back drive to the gas station would be the best place for
the second access. He stated a second access is required onto
commercial property. He stated an access on the west side would
suffice.
Commissioner Taylor questioned Chief Johnston regarding it would
suffice to have two accesses if the access from the gas station was put
in? Chief Johnston replied yes.
Commissioner Phelps stated he understood the concept for this project,
however, he stated he wanted to see a fire access more conducive to an
actual access and to meet the 20% open space requirement. He also
stated the original PUD was there for a high traffic parking lot, very busy
retail corner, which seems to fit with the gas station design. He stated
this is plugging a gap and blocking traffic flow. He questioned if this type
of use is what the City wants for this property? He questioned what
other opportunities are there for a viable future development?
Commissioner Taylor concurred and stated this is a viable business, but
it should flow through between the businesses, at least one flow through
from the gas station. She stated being in favor of one cross access from
the gas station.
Commissioner Byerly stated not seeing the need for a cross access for
this business. He stated he would like to see the landscaping stay, and
would be inclined to support the use and the lack of the cross access as
long as an approval from TxDot is received and a second access point
for fire access. He stated the open space requirement is not necessary
for commercial, the 17% will suffice.
Commissioner Dudziak stated the church would use it as a cut through
to L.D. Lockett, and would use the gas station. He stated the cross
access is what needs to be in place to allow for the flow of traffic.
Commissioner Byerly stated the people leaving the storage facility or the
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church can take a simple right hand turn onto Precinct Line and then
another right hand turn into the gas station, therefore eliminating the
need for the cross access on the storage facility property.
Commissioner Redfearn stated there is a large paved area behind the
gas station to allow for maneuvering which might meet the need for fire
access. He stated the original design did dictate the need for the cross
access, however, for this business, there does not appear to be a need
for the cross access.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mr. Chandler if he would be willing to
make the concession regarding the second access? Mr. Chandler
replied what they presented was adequate according to the meetings
with the Fire Marshal. He stated if there were a stipulation added to this
that he meet with the Fire Marshal and satisfy his requirements, whether
that be getting an easement from the church or whether it means putting
some type of gates onto that facility where it can provide an additional
access point, he stated making sure to get it done before moving forward
to City Council.
Commissioner Redfearn and Mr. Chandler discussed property lines.
Commissioner Redfearn moved to approve case Z-07-023 with a
provision added that should the applicant not receive permission from
TxDot for the driveway, that somehow this would come back to the
Commission for approval. City Attorney Kallas stated not to have it
come back to the Commission, but to make a contingent plan, if not
approved by TxDot, that it would comply with the cross access
easements in the original PUD. Commissioner Byerly seconded and
added an amendment that there be a second fire entrance that meets
the approval of the Fire Marshal.
Commissioner Knox stated the second entrance should be located at the
northeast part of this development. He stated there are a lot of issues
that have not been brought out with making that access next to the
church because the church does not have a designated fire lane over on
that side of their property, they have parking. There could be potential
for cars being parked in the way. He stated the building has changed
since last time it was presented, there is more building on the plan than
originally seen. He stated the second entrance for fire access would be
better served adjacent to the gas station. Chief Johnston concurred and
stated there could be a gate on the northeast part of this development
for security.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Chief Johnston if the Fire Marshal
takes into consideration the conditions of the adjacent properties? Chief
Johnston replied yes.
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Mr. Chandler stated they share a driveway easement with the church.
He stated they can move their dumpster and could provide an access
right there with the easement that is already shared and platted with the
church on the south end of this property.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding what is the distance
between the two entrances? Chief Johnston replied not knowing at this
time but stated he could meet with the applicant.
Commissioner Redfearn questioned staff regarding if any stipulations
should be put in place given that the Fire Marshal will have to approve
them? Commissioner Byerly stated he wanted to give the Fire Marshal
maximum flexibility regarding the fire access.
Commissioner Redfearn accepted Commissioner Byerly's amendment.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned staff regarding once this plat, the
PUD, is approved, is the 24 foot rear entrance permanent? City Attorney
Kallas stated since the second entrance will have to meet the Fire
Marshal's approval, then that entrance will only stay if approved by the
Fire Marshal.
Commissioner Phelps questioned, for clarity, should this entrance not
get approved by TxDot, the plat would use the previous site plan.
Commissioner Phelps commented that the applicant has indicated the
removal of parking spaces. He questioned staff regarding if the removal
of the parking spaces should be considered as part of the motion? Chris
Fuller concurred. Commissioner Phelps suggested the friendly
amendment.
Commissioners Byerly and Redfearn accepted the amendment.
Commissioner Byerly restated the motion: Commissioner Redfearn
moved to approve case Z-07-023 with the cross access easement
applying if TxDot approval is not received for the curb cut, a second fire
access approved by the Fire Marshal and with the removal of parking
within the 40 foot landscape buffer and any other impervious surfaces.
Commissioner Byerly seconded the motion.
Commissioner Dudziak stated this property has not been desirable for a
number of years, however, because of all of the developments for this
area, this business is not a good use for this property.
The motion failed by the following vote:
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Aye: 3 -Knox, Redfearn, Byerly
Nay: 3 -Dudziak, Taylor, Phelps
Absent: 1 -Duffy
Commissioner Phelps concurred with Commissioner Dudziak and stated
there is an opportunity for a more desirable business.
Commissioner Byerly disagreed and stated because this is between a
church and a gas station, a high end retail strip center will not go here.
He stated this type of business will work in this area and could possibly
start the movement for new development.
City Attorney Kallas stated if a consensus can not be made, it will have
to be continued again. He suggested another vote to move the case
along for the applicant.
Commissioner Byerly questioned Mr. Chandler if he would rather the
Commission continue this item until there is a full Commission or would
he rather have the Commission deny the request and let the case move
forward to City Council with a denial? Mr. Chandler stated not
understanding fully, and questioned if Commissioner Duffy were present
at the next meeting and someone else was absent, the same situation
might occur.
Commissioner Taylor stated she would be willing to change her vote.
Commissioner Dudziak stated the cross access easement should still be
in place. Commissioner Taylor stated it is not feasible for the applicant.
Commissioner Dudziak stated that not being the Commission's purvey to
decide. He stated the Commission is to hold to the design standards of
the development code of the City.
Commissioner Taylor made a motion to reconsider the vote for case
Z-07-023. Commissioner Byerly seconded.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 4 -Knox, Redfearn, Taylor, Byerly
Nay: 2 -Dudziak, Phelps
Absent: 1 -Duffy
9. STAFF COMMENTS, REPORTS AND DISCUSSION ITEMS
Chris Fuller discussed with the Commissioners regarding the workshop
with the American Planning Association. He stated if they would like to
attend, staff would make the reservations for them. He told the
Commissioners there may be a workshop in September once the new
Commissioners take their seats. He stated he would like to meet with
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the Commissioners, maybe one on one, to discuss what the staff can do
to meet the level of expectations regarding zoning, platting and
development standards.
10. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS AND REPORTS
None
11. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall
on Thursday, July 5, 2007 by 5:00 p.m.
The meeting minutes were approved on July 23, 2007.
Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant
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