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Planning and Zoning Commission
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:00 PM City Council Cftambers
6:15 P.M. -PRE-COMMISSION WORKSHOP
EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
THIRD FLOOR
LEGAL BRIEFING BY CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING PLANNING, ZONING,
PLATTING, AND LAND USE
REVIEW OF REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
REGULAR MEETING
7:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
The Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of the City of Colleyville
was called to order by Chairman Byerly on May 29, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Larry Knox, Dave Dudziak, Mary Taylor, David
Phelps and Jeff Byerly
Absent: Commissioners Scott Redfearn and Denis Duffy
Staff Present: Chris Fuller, Rob McKeown, Jeremy Hutt and Amy
Shelley
3. INVOCATION
The invocation was given by Commissioner Taylor.
4. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Dudziak moved to approve the May 14, 2007 meeting
minutes with corrections to mispelling on page 7, "esthetics" to
"aesthetics". Commissioner Taylor seconded.
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The motion carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 -Knox, Dudziak, Taylor, Phelps, Byerly
Absent: 2 - Redfearn, Duffy
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
7. PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS
7a Approval of a Replat of Lots B-1 and B-2 of the McEwing Subdivision
being Tract B of the McEwing Subdivision located at 715 Lavaca Trail,
Case P-07-025
Chris Fuller presented the case and briefed the Commissioners.
Commissioner Byerly opened the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
Karen Goetting, the applicant, came forward to present the case and
brief the Commissioners.
Commissioner Taylor questioned Mrs. Goetting regarding if another
house will be built on Lot B1? Mrs. Goetting replied yes, they want to
build their house there. She stated her brother lives on Lot B2.
Commissioner Taylor questioned Mrs. Goetting if she has spoken with
Mr. Pratt, Lot A, regarding the use of the easement or the possible
building of a road? Ms. Goetting replied no. Commissioner Taylor
stated the Fire Department will require a larger road, Mrs. Goetting
stated she talked with the Fire Department and there is a fire hydrant at
the corner of where Lot B2 begins. She stated there have been fire
trucks down in the past and has successfully put out fires.
Commissioner Taylor questioned Fire Marshal Rob McKeown regarding
if there are three houses in the back, what size road is needed to get
back there? Marshal McKeown replied there will be additional
requirements if approved and the 24 foot access easement will have to
be extended back to the new house. He stated the house may have
other requirements and those will be determined at the time of building
permits. He stated access means everything to the fire department. A
city approved turn around is necessary in this case.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Marshal McKeown regarding the
distance between Lavaca Trail and the new lot, is there a need for
another fire hydrant? Marshal McKeown replied if the distance between
the existing fire hydrant and the new structure exceeds 500 feet, then
another fire hydrant will be required and it will have to be on a loop
system. Mrs. Goetting replied there is a fire hydrant at the entrance of
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Lot B2.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mrs. Goetting regarding where would
the new house be situated on the lot? Mrs. Goetting replied facing the
new house to the pond, along the fence line, south of the existing house
and west of the pond.
Mrs. Goetting stated not wanting to put the Fire Department in jeopardy,
as they have watched their own home burn. She stated their building
permit would be in compliance with the fire code.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned Mrs. Goetting regarding what does
the common driveway consist of as far as construction materials? Mrs.
Goetting replied mostly gravel, but about three years ago, Mr. Pratt
installed asphalt that goes into his circular driveway, which has not held
up very well. She stated she and her husband want to install some sort
of asphalt, not gravel that can withstand the weather elements.
Commissioner Knox questioned Mrs. Goetting regarding if the easement
has been secured from the other property owner? Mrs. Goetting replied
the other property owner is her brother and it has been written down in
draft form but are waiting on this plat to go through.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mrs. Goetting if the current easement
is secured from Mr. Pratt? Mrs. Goetting replied those documents are
filed with Tarrant County and are secured from Lot A to Lot B and filed in
1966.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned Mrs. Goetting if there are any
limitations on the easement? Mrs. Goetting replied there are no
limitations on that. Commissioner Dudziak stated there could be two or
three houses back there is permitted by the Commission and it is fine
with the easement? Mrs. Goetting replied the easement from 1966 goes
from tract A to tract B, so the easement that is needed to attacht to this
plat, goes from B1 to B2. Commissioner Dudziak stated as the
easement exists now, are there any limitations on that easement as far
as cars or people using it? Mrs. Goetting replied she did not think so,
but did not know for sure. She stated there is not any language in the
easement that restricts it.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned Mrs. Goetting regarding why has she
not spoken with Mr. Pratt? Mrs. Goetting replied not having seen a need
to involve him in anything.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mrs. Goetting regarding the
improvements to the road, is that just the section on Lot B1 and B2, or
the entire length to Lavaca Trail? Mrs. Goetting replied they would then
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discuss it with her brother and Mr. Pratt to see if they would be willing to
share in the expense of the improvements. She stated that would be an
expensive project and since Mr. Pratt has already made some
improvements to his portion of the road, she did not think he would be
willing to do so, or maybe he would, she did not know.
Commissioner Phelps stated the road seems to be the issue with
whether or not this plat will be approved.
There being no one wishing to speak, the public hearing was closed at
7:19 p.m.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned Marshal McKeown regarding what
are the specifications for the minimum standards that the fire engines
have to have to access this? Marshal McKeown replied the fire lane
requirements are in the Land Development Code. It states seven inches
of asphalt for a modified subgrade capable of supporting up to 65,000
pounds, or it can be built out of concrete and the Land Development
Code states certain specifics, such as the size of rebar, spacing capable
of supporting up to 65,000 pounds as well. Commissioner Dudziak
questioned Marshal McKeown regarding if there is a potential risk that if
this road is not substantial enough to be able to support the vehicles?
Marshal McKeown replied yes, that would be correct.
Commissioner Taylor made a motion to ask the applicant that want to
build on this property, if they would want to put this on hold and go back
and see what they can get done with the road coming in and work with
Mr. Pratt in bringing in the road before the Commission disapproves of
this plat. City Attorney Michael Kallas replied there are some time
considerations. It would take an affirmative grant of a deferral period to
waive the 30 day requirement from the owner in order for them to have
the Commission the power to do that. Otherwise, a vote either to
approve or deny should happen today or else it would be approved by
the 30 day requirement.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff if this plat is denied, can the
applicant bring forth another plat? Chris Fuller replied correct.
Commissioenr Phelps questioned staff regarding if the applicant will
have to wait another year? Chris Fuller replied no, they could begin the
process anew.
Commissioner Byerly moved to deny case P-07-025. Commissioner
Knox seconded.
Commissioner Byerly stated there being an issue with a flag lot of a flag
lot of over an easement which has not been presented before. He
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stated to the applicant to come back with enough right of way to build an
actual road back there to serivice those two lots.
Commissioner Phelps questioned Mrs. Goetting regarding, after having
heard the types of requirements from the fire code, is that the type of
investments you are willing to approach? Mrs. Goetting questioned the
Commission if they wish for them to put in a road deemed to be public?
Commissioner Byerly stated it would have to be a public road. Mrs.
Goetting questioned why? Commissioeer Byerly replied the Land
Development Code requires every lot to have public street frontage and
this would be the only way to have the frontage. He stated not being
willing to rely on an easement back there to a second lot. He stated
easements laws are to be determined by private property rights and the
Commission is not here to determine that. He stated the only way to
ensure access would be to have a public street.
Mrs. Goetting replied that being a little much to ask of them. She stated
that would entitle Mr. Pratt to subdivide his property into five, one acre
lots, or 10 half acre lots and she stated she did not want him to do that.
City Attorney Kallas replied the public hearing has been closed and there
is a motion pending a vote by the Commission.
Commissioner Phelps stated wanting to have a road in place that would
hold the needs for the load, whether public or private, it will need to
conform to the fire code.
Commissioner Taylor stated there being a need for a substantial road to
go back to the back house.
Commissioner Knox stated the road is an issue as well as the fire
hydrant. He stated the fire hydrant needs to be on a loop system and
the Fire Marshal does not know how it is connected. He stated if there is
going to be more development back there, the fire line needs to be
sufficient to support the load as well as the road.
Commissioner Phelps concurred and stated all would need to be in
compliance, safe, and accessable.
Commissioner Dudziak questioned staff regarding if there are more
situations like this in Colleyville? Chris Fuller replied there are existing
residential lots that have access from easements without frontage on
public roads, however, does the request mirror the one before the
Commission this evening, he stated not knowing.
Commissioner Dudziak stated while there is a need for substantial roads,
all of the codes and ordinances are in place with the city so that the fire
trucks can get down the road and are well defined in the city code, yet,
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while very expensive, those guidelines still need to be followed when
building roads.
Commissioner Phelps questioned staff if by complying with the code,
does it dictate the need for it to be a public road, can it be a private road
that conforms to the code? Chris Fuller replied if the development is
fewer than 25 lots, the property would need to be rezoned to a Planned
Unit Development Residential. If they subdivide into 25 lots, they can
build a private road upon approval by City Council.
Commissioner Byerly questioned staff regarding if there would be a
potential to go to the developers in the area and have them have
connectivity? Chris Fuller replied the development to the south has
already been platted and filed with the County with no roads to connect
to this development. The development to the west has not filed with the
County, therefore the developer for that project could be contacted for a
possible connection.
Commissioner Taylor stated upon the possible building of the new road,
Mr. Pratt may decide to subdivide.
The motion to deny carried by the following vote:
Aye: 5 -Knox, Dudziak, Taylor, Phelps, Byerly
Absent: 2 - Redfearn, Duffy
7b Approval of a Zoning Change from R40-Single Family Residential to
R30-Single Family Residential on 1.5 acres on Lot 1, Block 1 of the
Harden Addition located at 4916 Behrens Road, Case Z-07-016
The applicant submitted a letter to withdraw this zoning request,
therefore this item was not opened for discussion.
8. STAFF COMMENTS, REPORTS AND DISCUSSION ITEMS
None
9. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS AND REPORTS
None
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10. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 7:32 p.m.
I hereby certify the above agenda was posted on the bulletin boards at City Hall
on Thursday, May 24, 2007 by 5:00 p.m.
Amy Shelley, Planning and Zoning Assistant
Meeting minutes approved on June 11, 2007.
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