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SIGN BOARD OF APPEAL
MINUTES OF MEETING - FEBRUARY 10,2004
REGULAR MEETING: Chairman McNosky called the regularly scheduled meeting to order at
7:15 p.m. on February 10, 2004.
Roll Call
Present:
Rich Munson, Skip Reynolds, Butch Bercher, Dee
McNosky, Larry Henry, Ed Moore
Barry LeBaron, Clayton Husband, Jan Levy
Staff:
Approval of Minutes October 14, 2003
Board Member Reynolds moved to approve the minutes as written. Board Member Larry
Henry seconded the motion. The motion was passed by acclamation.
AQenda Items
The five voting members for the items on the agenda are: Board Members Rich Munson,
Skip Reynolds, Butch Bercher, Dee McNosky, and Larry Henry.
1. Case G-04-003 - PUBLIC HEARING - A request of Goodacre Limited Partnership for a
variance from Chapter 7 -Sign Regulations of the Colleyville Land Development Code
regarding a Development Sign on Lot 1X, Block G and Lot 1X, Block H, Westmont Addition.
Mr. Barry LeBaron presented the case to the board members and reviewed the staff briefing.
Mr. David Bagwell was present to represent the case. He spoke about the role of a development
sign and the ability to conduct business. He compared the development sign to shopping retail
and said the customer usually doesn't want a sales clerk help until after looking around the story.
He said the community gains from home sales. Mr. Bagwell said he is proposing to place
attractive signs that are relatively demure in size and will remove other signs in the subdivision.
He said he is not aware of any citizens contacting the city or him with negative comments about
signs so it would seem that there is no harm being done.
Board Member Butch Bercher asked when Westmont started to be constructed and asked for a
information about what signs will be removed. Mr. Bagwell responded that the lot draw for
Westmont was in the fall of 2000, prior to September 11 th, 2001. He said that the economy
significantly changed after September 11, 2001 especially in the purchase of luxury home lots in
the price range of Westmont. He explained where the current development sign is located and
said it would be removed if he is able to place development signs in the location he's requested.
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Chairman Dee McNosky opened the public hearing. There was no one present wishing to speak,
and the public hearing was closed.
Board Member Skip Reynolds asked questions about the number of lots left to sell and who the
targeted market is. Mr. David Bagwell responded that they prefer to sell to the approved builders
that can meet the development standards, but they will sell a lot to an individual if they will agree
to use a builder from the developer's approved builders list. He said they have 20 lots left in the
Estates of Westmont and 16 lots left in the Benedict Hill portion. Board Member Reynolds talked
about signs that deteriorate and he is concerned about a commitment to keep the sign nice. Mr.
Bagwell said that his stock and trade demonstrates a record of quality development and he strives
for excellence.
Board Member Ed Moore questioned the time limit Mr. Bagwell requested. Mr. David Bagwell and
the board members entered into discussion about not wanting to set a precedence and may be
more inclined to set the time limit in smaller increments than the five years requested so that they
would have the authority to review the status of the need for the signs and the condition of the
signs. Mr. David Bagwell said he is in a dilemma of not being able to communicate to the public
without a sign. Chairman McNosky said that the Sign Board of Appeals is charged with the
mission of preventing sign pollution in the City of Colleyville. They entered into discussion about
other ways to market the subdivisions.
Board Member Rich Munson said he is inclined to grant a twelve month time frame for the
development signs.
Board Member Skip Reynolds moved to grant the request with a 24 month time limit from
the date the request is granted and to leave the sign up within the 24 months until the
developer sells every lot. He said the City can't collect tax until homes are built and it is
important to encourage and assist a quality developer to market his subdivision.
Board Member Butch Bercher seconded the motion.
Board Member Larry Henry added a friendly amendment that a statement be added to the
motion that says, "Or until 30 days after the last lot is sold, the sign would be removed."
The members making and seconding the motion accepted that amendment.
Board Member Rich Munson said he could not go with a 24 month time limit, and he wants a 12
month time limit.
Chairman McNosky asked staff if the applicant would have to make an application and pay a fee
every time he wanted to extend the time limit. Barry LeBaron said an application would be
submitted and fees collected each time because there are costs associated with notifying the
public of the request.
Chairman McNosky called for the vote. The vote being:
Ayes: Reynolds, Bercher, McNosky, Henry
Noes: Munson
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2. Case G-04-004 - PUBLIC HEARING - A request of Keswick Partnership for a variance from
Chapter 7 -Sign Regulations of the Colleyville Land Development Code regarding a
Development Sign on Lot 1, Block F, Leyton Grove Addition, 2111 Leyton Grove Lane.
Mr. Barry LeBaron presented the case to the board members and reviewed the staff briefing.
Mr. David Bagwell, the developer of Leyton Grove Addition, was present to represent the case.
He said out of 48 lots he had 10 lots left for sale. He told the Board that the lot drawing for Leyton
Grove was in January 2000 and the existing sign will be replaced and the new development sign
will be placed at the same location.
Board Member Rich Munson told Mr. Bagwell that if an extension is granted, he would like to be
provided with photographs of the sign to make sure the sign is in good condition. He said that
way if a time limit of 12 months is placed on the development sign, they would be assured that the
signs are kept in good condition.
Chairman McNosky opened the public hearing. There was no one wishing to speak, and the
public hearing was closed.
Board Member Rich Munson moved to approve the request with the time limitation of 12
months, the developer will provide photographs of the existing sign if he needs to extend
the time limitation and the provision that at 90% build out the sign removed 30 days after
that occurs.
There was no second to the motion.
Board Member Skip Reynolds moved to approve the development sign for 24 months and if
all lots sell within the 24 month period, the sign will be removed within 30 days of closing
on the last lot. Board Member Butch Bercher seconded the motion. The vote being:
Ayes: Reynolds, Bercher, McNosky, Henry
Noes: Munson
CITIZEN COMMENTS There was none.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by acclamation. They're being no further business, the meeting
adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Clayton Husband AICP, Development Coordinator
Approved on:
Note: As a matter of public record, an audio recording of this Sign Board of Appeals meeting is available upon request.
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